From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Jul 10 20:33:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 74207 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2006 03:11:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Jul 2006 03:11:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Jul 2006 03:11:51 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G08f6-00065y-U0 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:11:49 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G08ci-00063p-Sn; Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:09:22 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G08cI-00063C-8r for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:08:54 -0700 Received: from web56404.mail.re3.yahoo.com ([216.252.111.83]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G08cH-000634-5F for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:08:54 -0700 Received: (qmail 88784 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Jul 2006 03:08:51 -0000 Message-ID: <20060711030851.88782.qmail@web56404.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Received: from [75.2.89.1] by web56404.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:08:51 PDT Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:08:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <505759838.20060711064732@mail.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1331218399-1152587331=:62599" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-archive-position: 12093 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: nathanielkrause@yahoo.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Nathaniel Krause From: Nathaniel Krause Reply-To: nathanielkrause@yahoo.com Subject: [lojban] Re: Example of Cultural Neutrality X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=V06kvFQYTFReVbhp-05PDt58JEHNN4tAMIBcjFONdv3HtwtVtw X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 26519 --0-1331218399-1152587331=:62599 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Assuming that I cannot, in fact, pronounce the Japanese correctly: if I were called upon to read this sentence aloud, I would read it as "la'o py. some Japanese characters that I don't recognise .py. goi ko'a cu ponjo karcypra bo kagni". That is, as far as Lojban is concerned, "some Japanese characters that I don't recognise" (or anything else, for that matter) is an equally good spoken approximation of トヨタ自動車株式会社 as the actual Japanese words would be, since Japanese script and pronunciation are not part of Lojban. -Nat Krause Yanis Batura wrote: Can you read this? la'o py. トヨタ自動車株式会社 .py. goi ko'a cu ponjo karcypra bo kagni __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --0-1331218399-1152587331=:62599 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Assuming that I cannot, in fact, pronounce the Japanese correctly: if I were called upon to read this sentence aloud, I would read it as "la'o py. some Japanese characters that I don't recognise .py. goi ko'a cu ponjo karcypra bo kagni". That is, as far as Lojban is concerned, "some Japanese characters that I don't recognise" (or anything else, for that matter) is an equally good spoken approximation of トヨタ自動車株式会社 as the actual Japanese words would be, since Japanese script and pronunciation are not part of Lojban.

-Nat Krause

Yanis Batura <ybatura@mail.ru> wrote:
Can you read this?

la'o py. トヨタ自動車株式会社 .py. goi ko'a cu ponjo karcypra bo kagni

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