From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Jul 04 11:48:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 34932 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2006 18:25:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Jul 2006 18:25:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Jul 2006 18:25:25 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FxpaM-0008S6-9U for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 04 Jul 2006 11:25:22 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FxpZ1-0008QQ-6j; Tue, 04 Jul 2006 11:24:01 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 04 Jul 2006 11:23:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FxpYZ-0008Q6-No for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 04 Jul 2006 11:23:31 -0700 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FxpYZ-0008Pz-F9 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 04 Jul 2006 11:23:31 -0700 Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 11:23:31 -0700 Message-ID: <20060704182331.GH9631@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <737b61f30606291208u116ab072i7d77bc064d346a93@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560606291600r3c9d8954n5239ec45b6a30263@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <925d17560606291600r3c9d8954n5239ec45b6a30263@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060403 X-archive-position: 11903 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -3.2 (---) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: do jbopre speak slowly? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=ZtPKtcQVFOH7A4l4hVQnkAt_buJyv593QOVSKU98-s50bodswQ X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 26329 On Thu, Jun 29, 2006 at 08:00:00PM -0300, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > >Thus, it seems like speaking Lojban at the same speed and (lack > >of) clarity as one speaks English would probably make it > >difficult to understand the Lojban. So, in order to keep > >communication errors down, does this suggest that Lojban speakers > >would naturally, probably unconciously, learn to speak phonemes > >more slowly and clearly than do English speakers? > > Since Lojban words tend to have more syllables than English words, > and there are less syllables available in Lojban (so less > possibility for confusion) I suspect that syllables will tend to > be pronounced faster in fluent Lojban than in fluent English. More, in English you have to pause (at least glottal stop, IME) a lot more often, so that's my intuition as well. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.