From lojban-out@lojban.org Sun Jul 09 08:07:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 56655 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2006 15:04:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Jul 2006 15:04:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jul 2006 15:04:05 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FzapB-0000yn-QI for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 09 Jul 2006 08:03:59 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Fzamy-0000Nq-CC; Sun, 09 Jul 2006 08:01:41 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 09 Jul 2006 08:01:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FzamR-0000Ne-NQ for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 09 Jul 2006 08:01:07 -0700 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.188]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FzamQ-0000NW-Ap for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 09 Jul 2006 08:01:07 -0700 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so318098nfe for ; Sun, 09 Jul 2006 08:01:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.164.13 with SMTP id m13mr1351819hue; Sun, 09 Jul 2006 08:01:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.13.6 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Jul 2006 08:01:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2d3df92a0607090801l5c834bbax363234cbee0227b5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2006 17:01:04 +0200 In-Reply-To: <925d17560607081225t3805a64ck8c06ea0faa021662@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_37582_14537008.1152457264754" References: <1836234499.20060702070602@mail.ru> <78904337.20060705215056@mail.ru> <2d3df92a0607080904j65e6faa8o8501246ad0e1191d@mail.gmail.com> <678456385.20060708232944@mail.ru> <2d3df92a0607081000q4e1436a3pd1712372a9060651@mail.gmail.com> <1565464009.20060709001700@mail.ru> <2d3df92a0607081137k3a3766cqf95a806b7a44ee39@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560607081225t3805a64ck8c06ea0faa021662@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-archive-position: 12018 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: exitconsole@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: HeliodoR From: HeliodoR Reply-To: exitconsole@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: Language-independent humor X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=B7GIiv__rvSzjRTi-SIfhLJKr0Ijd3o3X21BUaO1D3dO6a1xNw X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 26444 ------=_Part_37582_14537008.1152457264754 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline > > {pe} and {be} belong to different selma'o and they have different > functions. o'a nai ru'e {be} attaches a sumti to a brivla. {pe} attaches a sumti to another sumti. {be} can only be used right after a brivla (or other > tanru unit). It cannot be used between a gadri and a brivla. ua nai Did I remember a {la be [sumti] ku [cmene]} form? The sequence is as follows: > > [...] > You attach to the sumti another sumti. (This is about {pe}-attachments, yes?) > There are three places where you can place this attached sumti: between the gadri and the brivla, between the brivla and {ku}, or after the {ku}. Yup. A tanru unit with attached sumti can also be used as part of a tanru, > as in the tanru {broda be ko'a brode}. You can't do that with {pe} because > there is no sumti in {broda brode} to attach another sumti to. I see. ki'e do mu'o ------=_Part_37582_14537008.1152457264754 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
{pe} and {be} belong to different selma'o and they have different
functions.
 
o'a nai ru'e

{be} attaches a sumti to a brivla. {pe} attaches a sumti to
another sumti. {be} can only be used right after a brivla (or other
tanru unit). It cannot be used between a gadri and a brivla.
 
ua nai
Did I remember a {la be [sumti] ku [cmene]} form?

The sequence is as follows:

[...]
You attach to the sumti another sumti.
 
(This is about {pe}-attachments, yes?)
 
There are three places where you can place this attached sumti:
between the gadri and the brivla, between the brivla and {ku}, or after
the {ku}.
 
Yup.

A tanru unit with attached sumti can also be used as part of a tanru,
as in the tanru {broda be ko'a brode}. You can't do that with {pe} because
there is no sumti in {broda brode} to attach another sumti to.
 
I see. ki'e do
 
mu'o
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