From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Jul 13 12:41:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 49486 invoked from network); 13 Jul 2006 19:39:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m27.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Jul 2006 19:39:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Jul 2006 19:39:00 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G171V-0008W6-SH for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 12:38:58 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G1711-0008Vk-Tr; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 12:38:28 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 13 Jul 2006 12:38:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G170b-0008Vb-UE for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 12:38:02 -0700 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.188]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G170b-0008VN-1p for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 12:38:01 -0700 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g2so18325nfe for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 12:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.1.3 with SMTP id 3mr1248347nfa; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 12:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.57.4 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 12:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <737b61f30607131237h60c2e937m9282df01d1b8ccf1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 14:37:59 -0500 In-Reply-To: <925d17560607131150g5e15645aie1b7d9a56003b360@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <737b61f30607131027l1306b033qd32a1ecd2f51281d@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560607131150g5e15645aie1b7d9a56003b360@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 12189 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pdf23ds@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "Chris Capel" From: "Chris Capel" Reply-To: pdf23ds@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: Do jbopre use terminators? (was: Is Lojban a CFG?) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=7Nqii6W-V_ucxWXd7bBfWXITIPvmQJrPfvfO5ZObk8pYPEPZGw X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 26615 On 7/13/06, Jorge Llambías wrote: > On 7/13/06, Chris Capel wrote: > > > > If English *did* have Lojban-style phrase terminators, how often would > > they be required? Less than Lojban, because English has more parts of > > speech, and less nesting? > > It is a myth that English has more parts of speech than Lojban's more > than a hundred. Well, what I meant was that English tends rely more on differences in parts of speech to communicate word grouping, whereas lojban depends, more or less completely, on elidable terminators, and a few grouping cmavo ({be}, {ke}, etc.). Chris Capel -- "What is it like to be a bat? What is it like to bat a bee? What is it like to be a bee being batted? What is it like to be a batted bee?" -- The Mind's I (Hofstadter, Dennet) To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.