From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Aug 11 06:43:21 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 11 Aug 2006 06:43:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GBXHv-0005du-Qr for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 06:42:59 -0700 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.183]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GBXHu-0005di-3v for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 06:42:59 -0700 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id z74so1694023pyg for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 06:42:54 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=t1Iu25qKa2mSrZfRljqICVzdoX0Zif8enyKyJmipWBYZswrq6ZWQJonAelhvk49NPx88CZy/WqwDmB32K/OPXH6uVSYFhw3TQGgGL/uN7uNA1EYL9bRogXuayvv6Zv/2JCM30Lsb5eVavw6PAKbNNtmQZZ+qV+QWcGC8kXNC/SQ= Received: by 10.35.60.16 with SMTP id n16mr6200927pyk; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 06:42:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.10.9 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 06:42:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560608110642x223836bdg5d4cbc8a0f94948@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 10:42:54 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: catni In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 12415 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On 8/11/06, Arnt Richard Johansen wrote: > > The fact that several languages treats authority metaphorically as an > object that can be possessed, transferred and given away, does not make it > an objective fact. In a sense, Lojban does this too, except the word for "possessing" in this case is not {ponse} but {ckaji}: lo cevni cu ckaji lo ka catni lo ro se finti be cy "God possesses authority over all that He created." lo flalu cu dunda lo ka catni kei lo rirni "The law confers authority upon the parents." mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.