From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Aug 11 07:23:48 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 11 Aug 2006 07:23:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GBXv5-0006vS-9s for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 07:23:27 -0700 Received: from mx.211.ru ([193.238.131.194]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GBXv1-0006vK-CT for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 07:23:27 -0700 Received: from localhost (mx.211.ru [193.238.131.194]) by mx.211.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 613EDEBC74 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 22:52:06 +0700 (NOVST) Received: from mx.211.ru ([193.238.131.194]) by localhost (mx.211.ru [193.238.131.194]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 65572-06 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 22:52:04 +0700 (NOVST) Received: from mail.211.ru (mail [10.5.1.2]) by mx.211.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8ADEBC67 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 22:52:03 +0700 (NOVST) Received: from localhost (host-102-2-129.211.ru [10.102.2.129]) by mail.211.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id D65825C15 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:23:18 +0700 (NOVST) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:23:13 +0700 From: Yanis Batura X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.30) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <168564775.20060811212313@mail.ru> To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= Subject: [lojban] preti fo la xorxes. In-Reply-To: <925d17560608110642x223836bdg5d4cbc8a0f94948@mail.gmail.com> References: <925d17560608110642x223836bdg5d4cbc8a0f94948@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------C78F24C764C72A" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-archive-position: 12419 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ybatura@mail.ru Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list ------------C78F24C764C72A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11.08.2006, 20:42, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > On 8/11/06, Arnt Richard Johansen wrote: >> The fact that several languages treats authority metaphorically as an >> object that can be possessed, transferred and given away, does not make = it >> an objective fact. > In a sense, Lojban does this too, except the word for "possessing" > in this case is not {ponse} but {ckaji}: > lo cevni cu ckaji lo ka catni lo ro se finti be cy > "God possesses authority over all that He created." > lo flalu cu dunda lo ka catni kei lo rirni > "The law confers authority upon the parents." doi xorxes. mi djuno lo du'u do pu pa'arbau tolcando .i do ca xu pa'arbau t= olcando .i lo pa'arbau la lojban. zo'u ma zmadu lo ka do nelci Hint for everyone (except jbovlasters, of course): look for {pa'arbau} in j= bovlaste. mi'e .ianis. --------------------- Lojban: A Language With *Intelligent* Design ------------C78F24C764C72A Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On 11.08.2006, 20:42, Jorge Llambнas wrot= e:

> On 8/11/06, Arnt Richard&nb= sp;Johansen <ar= j@nvg.org> wrote:

>> The fact that several&n= bsp;languages treats authority metaphorically as a= n

>> object that can be = ;possessed, transferred and given away, does = not make it

>> an objective fact.

> In a sense, Lojban doe= s this too, except the word for "possess= ing"

> in this case is not&nb= sp;{ponse} but {ckaji}:

> lo cevni = ;cu ckaji lo ka catni lo ro se fint= i be cy

> "God possesse= s authority over all that He created."=

> lo flalu = ;cu dunda lo ka catni kei lo rirni

> "The law = ;confers authority upon the parents."

doi xorxes. mi djuno lo du'u do pu pa'arbau tolcando .i do ca xu pa'arba= u tolcando .i lo pa'arbau la lojban. zo'u ma zmadu lo ka do nelci

Hint for everyone (except jbovlasters, of course): look for {pa'arbau} i= n jbovlaste.

mi'e .ianis.

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