From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Aug 30 21:39:46 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:39:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GIeKt-0000uS-6R for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:39:27 -0700 Received: from phma.optus.nu ([166.82.175.165] helo=ixazon.dynip.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GIeKr-0000rR-Ue for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:39:26 -0700 Received: from [192.168.25.19] (unknown [192.168.25.19]) by ixazon.dynip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61DE8CE771 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 00:39:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] What's it called when a brivla requires {be}? Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 00:38:59 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608310039.03120.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-archive-position: 12573 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list IIRR there are three constructions in the grammar where a brivla requires {be} if it has arguments. One is a selgadri, one is a seltau, and I forget what the third one is. What do we call the state a brivla is in when it requires {be}? I've thought of saying that it's in the infinitive, but the semantic equivalent of an infinitive is {lo nu} followed by a brivla. Anyone have a better name? Pierre To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.