From lojban-out@lojban.org Sat Aug 05 12:15:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 38894 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2006 19:15:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.36) by m22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Aug 2006 19:15:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Aug 2006 19:15:46 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G9RcU-0005Av-Qt for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:15:35 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G9Rbo-00059b-CS; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:14:53 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:14:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G9RbM-00059S-Q4 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:14:24 -0700 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.185]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G9RbK-00059L-5R for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:14:24 -0700 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id m18so1180476nfc for ; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.185.16 with SMTP id i16mr1959392huf; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.159.4 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 12:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 15:14:20 -0400 In-Reply-To: <221DA770-97EA-4262-A7E7-73A00469FC92@umich.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <84687C13-725B-485D-95D2-1F93B4425DBF@umich.edu> <221DA770-97EA-4262-A7E7-73A00469FC92@umich.edu> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 12321 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "Matt Arnold" From: "Matt Arnold" Reply-To: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: Elephants Dream X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=QoeYLewe-W7A_eYQR-UczXKxMGZ6MMyPX9VrEjxaph8sXFcQTA X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 26749 That fact is very relevant to Lojban and how we translate the title. I was thinking about this in relation to the title of Vernor Vinge's latest science fiction novel "Rainbows End". Vernor Vinge said when he was a guest of honor at this year's ConFusion science fiction convention that he very deliberately wanted it to be plural, not possessive. -epkat On 8/5/06, Alex Martini wrote: > The script is on the wiki now. And I'm not sure why I called it > Machinima when it pretty clearly isn't. Although, the working title > was Machina which sounds similar. > > http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=elephants+dream > > I should point out that there isn't an apostrophe missing in the > title. That's how they spell it on their site, and they discuss it as > being like elephants dreaming in the Making Of videos. > > mu'omi'e .aleks. > > On Aug 5, 2006, at 1:09 AM, Matt Arnold wrote: > > > This is an excellent choice. I volunteer to provide the voice of > > Proog. :) The English version of the dialogue only has 315 words. This > > project shouldn't take long to complete at all! > > -epkat > > > > P.S. Incidentally, for future reference, Elephants Dream has nothing > > to do with Machinima. > > > > On 8/4/06, Alex Martini wrote: > >> I recently downloaded the movie "elephants dream", which is open > >> content under the Creative Commons Attribution lisence. It is about > >> 10 minutes, with rather minimal dialogue between the two characters. > >> The original script in English is available and is about 4 pages > >> long. Translations to about 20 other languages are available also. I > >> think that this might make a good candidate for dubbing or subtitling > >> in Lojban. Any thoughts? > >> > >> http://www.elephantsdream.org/ > >> > >> script on bottom of page: http://orange.blender.org/download > >> > >> mu'omi'e .aleks. > >> > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.