From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Aug 31 07:09:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 46587 invoked from network); 31 Aug 2006 14:03:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.35) by m26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 Aug 2006 14:03:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Aug 2006 14:03:24 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GIn8G-0002bh-5f for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 07:03:00 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GIn4t-0002Ep-39; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 06:59:33 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 31 Aug 2006 06:59:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GIn4M-0002EN-65 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 06:58:58 -0700 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.228]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GIn4J-0002EG-GO for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 06:58:57 -0700 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i28so196707wra for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 06:58:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.106.18 with SMTP id e18mr141197agc; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 06:58:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.55.6 with HTTP; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 06:58:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 09:58:49 -0400 In-Reply-To: <925d17560608310607x14177764sc45a4d791c85aab4@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <200608301950.47511.phma@phma.optus.nu> <925d17560608310607x14177764sc45a4d791c85aab4@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 12576 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0 X-eGroups-From: "Matt Arnold" From: "Matt Arnold" Reply-To: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: Lojban card game X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=SRswsNR6D07qMfYbsBW23T6zyuoBDTAcBR6OB8sAxzPPykXaVw X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 27007 On 8/31/06, Jorge Llambías wrote: > > I wouldn't use {zo'e bu} (nor {co'e bu}) for what I assume are wild cards. > Since you don't write {fy}, {cy}, {ybu}, etc in the other cards, why write > the name of the symbol instead of the symbol itself in this one? I would > prefer some symbol such as "*". What does the English version have in > them? A word spelled like {k l a zo'ebu a} looks more weird than > {k l a * a}. Not a big deal though, the cards look very nice. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes The English version says "wild" on the wild cards. But there's nothing "cilce" about the concept. I didn't use a character meaning "zo'e bu", because there is no such thing. If it helps, you can think of the zo'e-above-bu arrangment on the wild card as a single Chinese-like symbol. As long as you want a symbol instead of a Lojban word, then it may as well be. As for me, I'll take any chance I can get to actually include Lojban words on this deck. The cards have been updated with an improved "z". Here are the pages with "z" on them: http://www.nemorathwald.com/lojban/cibyska/la-cibyska-15-crino-zohebu.jpg http://www.nemorathwald.com/lojban/cibyska/la-cibyska-15-xunre-pelxu.jpg http://www.nemorathwald.com/lojban/cibyska/la-cibyska-zohebu.jpg Another thing I realized yesterday is that the point scores are all divisible by 5. So I'm going to do so before I print these cards. I might replace the numerals with pa re ci vo mu. -epkat To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.