From lojban-out@lojban.org Fri Aug 11 03:20:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 9603 invoked from network); 11 Aug 2006 10:13:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m39.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Aug 2006 10:13:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Aug 2006 10:13:12 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GBU0p-0003XK-N7 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 03:13:08 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GBTzD-0003To-3s; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 03:11:29 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 11 Aug 2006 03:11:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GBTyd-0003TW-76 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 03:10:51 -0700 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no ([129.241.210.67]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GBTyY-0003TO-KX for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 03:10:50 -0700 Received: from hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no (hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.68]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EDAC94780 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:10:29 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:10:28 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: arj@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-NVG-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-NVG-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: arj@nvg.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 12406 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: arj@nvg.org X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Arnt Richard Johansen From: Arnt Richard Johansen Reply-To: arj@nvg.org Subject: [lojban] Re: catni X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=jACf_PutX5nCVSzVba2Clln1TYC3Eyx5SJiSlm_xIbAtfT1a8A X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 26834 On Fri, 11 Aug 2006, Yanis Batura wrote: >> lo ka/nu catni > > Hmm... "quality of being *someone* with authority" and "event of *someone* having authority" is somewhat different from the concept of "authority". Authority is a social power which can be "possessed", and which, applied to ppl, makes them behaving in an appropriate way. The fact that several languages treats authority metaphorically as an object that can be possessed, transferred and given away, does not make it an objective fact. I'm hard pressed to think of an English sentence using the word "authority" that cannot easily be translated into Lojban using "catni". -- Arnt Richard Johansen http://arj.nvg.org/ Can someone poke Shawn? next meeting, electroshock devices go under everyone's chairs. Just send an EOU to their terminal (end of user. Makes terminal explode) To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.