From lojban-out@lojban.org Sat Aug 12 19:07:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 87787 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2006 02:03:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m33.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Aug 2006 02:03:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Aug 2006 02:03:03 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GC5Ja-00013D-Rj for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 19:02:58 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GC5Hv-0000jm-5B; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 19:01:15 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 12 Aug 2006 19:01:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GC5HT-0000jJ-Kc for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 19:00:47 -0700 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.185]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GC5HR-0000jB-NC for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 19:00:47 -0700 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id a27so1319952nfc for ; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 19:00:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.91.6 with SMTP id t6mr5640944nfl; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 19:00:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.92.8 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 19:00:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <737b61f30608121900g571c186bm1da4bd52b242831d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 21:00:43 -0500 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 12435 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pdf23ds@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: "Chris Capel" From: "Chris Capel" Reply-To: pdf23ds@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: bumru X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=K2xcK9fqFJfCErritUuoLmHlOGK6TnMoNhtfhsMBPkBy0_QiSg X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 26863 On 8/12/06, Matt Arnold wrote: > On 8/11/06, Yanis Batura wrote: > > The second means not fog itself, but the liquid, of which fog is composed. > > > > Wouldn't it be better that {bumru} had another definition: > > > > "x1 is fog covering consisting of x2 and covering x3" > > > > Please don't kill me! ;) > > > > "Liquid of which fog is composed" _is_ the fog itself. It cannot _not_ > be fog. {tu se bumru} is precisely what is meant. I can't think of any example off the top of my head, but I remember that some gismu have two different places that refer technically to the same aspect of an object, but from different perspectives. So if {bumru} did work like that, it wouldn't be unique among gismu. Chris Capel -- "What is it like to be a bat? What is it like to bat a bee? What is it like to be a bee being batted? What is it like to be a batted bee?" -- The Mind's I (Hofstadter, Dennet) To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.