From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Aug 22 07:04:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 69257 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2006 14:01:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m34.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Aug 2006 14:01:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 2006 14:01:38 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GFWoV-0005uG-ME for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 07:01:10 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GFWnV-0005XI-DK; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 07:00:07 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 06:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GFWmv-0005X2-8L for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 06:59:29 -0700 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.228]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GFWmu-0005Wu-Bj for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 06:59:29 -0700 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i28so386425wra for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 06:59:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.49.20 with SMTP id w20mr447776agw; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 06:59:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.55.6 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 06:59:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:59:26 -0400 In-Reply-To: <12d58c160608220651j2cbb3808u84cb19e01286de9f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <12d58c160608220651j2cbb3808u84cb19e01286de9f@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 12541 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: "Matt Arnold" From: "Matt Arnold" Reply-To: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: Puzzle X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=oN2Ws1r2P2wF7l_0kym1C_dOvah1mbTVjUW81f3Pv5GQn2SksQ X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 26971 On 8/22/06, Adam COOPER wrote: > On 8/22/06, Yanis Batura wrote: > > > "I can read and write" is translated to Lojban as > > > > (1) mi kakne lo nu tcidu kei .e lo nu ciska > > > I have a sneaking suspicion that {kei} is not needed there, and that that > was recently fixed in jboski [?!] > > > The more intuitive version, > > > > (2) mi ka'e tcidu je ciska > > > > is wrong. What does it mean? > > > "I am-innately-capable-of reading and writing." A wise lojbanist pointed out > a few months back that {ka'e} does not have the same basic meaning as > {kakne}. > > mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan > And what is that difference in basic meaning? -epkat To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.