From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Aug 08 16:13:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 16593 invoked from network); 8 Aug 2006 23:03:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.35) by m30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Aug 2006 23:03:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 2006 23:03:07 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GAaOx-0003wy-6Y for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 08 Aug 2006 15:50:19 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GAaNS-0003vf-RX; Tue, 08 Aug 2006 15:48:48 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 15:48:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GAaN1-0003vW-5E for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 08 Aug 2006 15:48:19 -0700 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.239]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GAaMz-0003vP-9C for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 08 Aug 2006 15:48:18 -0700 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 55so12622wri for ; Tue, 08 Aug 2006 15:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.177.3 with SMTP id z3mr61229hue; Tue, 08 Aug 2006 15:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.159.4 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Aug 2006 15:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 18:48:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 12353 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "Matt Arnold" From: "Matt Arnold" Reply-To: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] translating gismu definitions into Lojban X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=b3cRltAe38QJZrpogRerkTw-FxgYVZCPGbG8zCWz9EnN21pAfQ X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 26781 In alphabetical order from the gismu.txt wordlist, I have begun posting entries to jboselkei in the following form: "x1 utters verbally/says/phonates/speaks [vocally makes sound] x2 [also voices; does not necessarily imply communication or audience; ('says' is usually cusku)] Explanatory context: Translate the definition of {bacru} into Lojban in any way that gets across the meaning, without using the word itself, or its rafsi. You do not have to use Lojban equivalents of any words or punctuation in the English definition. Instead, invent the best definition that can be made in Lojban. You must keep the place structure intact. Assume the reader does not speak any natural languages, and does not need to be warned against their assumptions." Please suggest any improvements to the standard explanatory text. Also, I'm not sure how to translate x1, x2 and so forth, but I'm sure there exists a standard convention for it. -epkat To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.