From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Sep 12 12:21:50 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 12 Sep 2006 12:21:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GNDp6-0006Ku-Hq for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 12:21:32 -0700 Received: from eastrmmtao05.cox.net ([68.230.240.34]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GNDp1-0006Km-5g for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 12:21:32 -0700 Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao05.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.06.01 201-2131-130-101-20060113) with ESMTP id <20060912192125.FGRL7951.eastrmmtao05.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 15:21:25 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([72.192.234.183]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id MXM61V00d3y5FKc0000000 Tue, 12 Sep 2006 15:21:08 -0400 Message-ID: <450708B0.2020706@lojban.org> Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 15:21:20 -0400 From: Bob LeChevalier User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Lojban in The Wall Street Journal References: <925d17560609120528r7fca675du737ec16af7dd7ac@mail.gmail.com> <20060912144816.GI4612@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <925d17560609120912j1e4625b9q8e0049df4e049352@mail.gmail.com> <20060912170949.GJ4612@chain.digitalkingdom.org> In-Reply-To: <20060912170949.GJ4612@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 12590 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lojbab@lojban.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 01:12:04PM -0300, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > >>On 9/12/06, Robin Lee Powell wrote: >> >>>However, I don't think it really crosses the line to bad >>>publicity. >> >>"There's no such thing as bad publicity." :) > > > I've never really believed that, actually. I wonder if any actual > studies have been done. I think for Lojban, it would be difficult to have "bad publicity". It would be especially difficult to imagine bad publicity for us associated with a front page story on the Wall St Journal (there are negative stories that appear there, but it is hard to imagine Lojban being connected to such a story in a negative way - even the LLG Board going to prison for bilking Donald Trump out of megabucks would have people trying to figure out what we had to offer that would tempt the Donald %^). Even with the word "cult" used in the article, it lends us gravitas that is almost unattainable for an artificial language. (I suspect that the word was used metaphorically to mean "having weird ideas"). Most likely, it will lead a small number of people who had never heard of us to use their search engines (the reporter who interviewed me had never heard of us before working on the story; nor had she heard of Klingon as a real language, for that matter, and they are much more widely known). The article also gives gravitas to Hartmut's efforts, which seemed to many to be completely quixotic until this recent success, which in turn means that he will attract more attention, which means that more people will look at us on that basis. And anyone who looks at us will have trouble seeing anything cultlike about us %^) lojbab To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.