From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Oct 28 02:03:05 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 28 Oct 2006 02:03:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gdk5W-0005c7-3K for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 02:02:46 -0700 Received: from mx.211.ru ([193.238.131.194]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gdk5M-0005bK-Nq for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 02:02:45 -0700 Received: from localhost (mx.211.ru [193.238.131.194]) by mx.211.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B6BEBD22 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 16:02:30 +0700 (NOVST) Received: from mx.211.ru ([193.238.131.194]) by localhost (mx.211.ru [193.238.131.194]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02019-03 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 16:02:29 +0700 (NOVST) Received: from mail.211.ru (mail [10.5.1.2]) by mx.211.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02CF9EBD1D for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 16:02:28 +0700 (NOVST) Received: from host-102-2-129.211.ru (host-102-2-129.211.ru [10.102.2.129]) by mail.211.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77FCD5C1B for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 16:02:28 +0700 (NOVST) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 16:02:24 +0700 From: Yanis Batura X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.71.04) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <194627226.20061028160224@mail.ru> To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] {ki'i} and {ra'a} MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 12816 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ybatura@mail.ru Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list {ki'i} and {ra'a} are two BAI cmavo, derived from {ckini} and {srana}, respectively. While there is a clear difference between the two gismu, I cannot grasp very well the difference between the two cmavo. Can anyone explain me it and provide some examples where {ki'i} and {ra'a} don't mean the same? (There is a BPFK section shepherded by R. L. Powell and where both are, but it didn't help me much: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=BPFK+Section%3A+Relational+sumtcita&bl) a'u mi'e .ianis To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.