From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Oct 30 11:50:18 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:50:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ged8y-0001OX-7n for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:50:00 -0800 Received: from fep05.xtra.co.nz ([210.54.141.241]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ged8r-0001OA-78 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:49:59 -0800 Received: from [10.1.1.3] (really [222.155.150.225]) by fep05.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20061030194943.SCLN27418.fep05.xtra.co.nz@[10.1.1.3]> for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:49:43 +1300 Subject: [lojban] Re: New lujvo - mengafxu'i From: Gustav van der Merwe To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <925d17560610300832i43f5ec66m3709aabec2563f0c@mail.gmail.com> References: <1162237484.10289.22.camel@localhost> <925d17560610300628w58b0ee00x718fd5d6c047b12e@mail.gmail.com> <233204621.20061030221136@mail.ru> <925d17560610300832i43f5ec66m3709aabec2563f0c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-gTNha93IIm/jOSd4btrA" Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:50:49 +0000 Message-Id: <1162284650.10289.27.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1.1 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-archive-position: 12844 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: gvdm@paradise.net.nz Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --=-gTNha93IIm/jOSd4btrA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2006-10-30 at 13:32 -0300, Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas wrote: > On 10/30/06, Yanis Batura wrote: > > On 30.10.2006, 20:28, Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas wrote: > > > > > I would suggest menli+stika+xukmi, since presumably the chemical > > > does not change the mind into something else, but rather just alters > > > some of its properties. > > > > Hmmm... you've objected against {galfi} in two consecutive letters. Is > > that a coincidence? >=20 > I had commented on "edit" before Gustav's post, so yes. Or perhaps > if I had not been thinking of {galfi} recently I would not have commented > on this one, so no. :) >=20 > In any case, {galfi} means changing something into something else, > and {stika} means changing something in some aspect, but such that > the something remains the same something. If we always use {galfi} > there's not much point in having the distinction. >=20 > mu'o mi'e xorxes >=20 I am actually inclined to agree with xorxes here. Reading a bit more it makes sense to use stika rather than galfi. The lujvo was rather thrown together. Another point is everybody happy with=20 {mentikxu'i}: x1 is a mind-changing-chemical with effect x2 or can somebody think of better places? --=20 Gustav van der Merwe --=-gTNha93IIm/jOSd4btrA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBFRw5pKRS7IO6jAOURAg3YAJ92D7+0NtVgaqBG8nA0SzqMlTWJeQCeKyep hYDdHPbnWeupfYcwYjI2Krs= =cdjt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-gTNha93IIm/jOSd4btrA-- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.