From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Oct 31 04:05:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 34566 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2006 12:05:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m27.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 Oct 2006 12:05:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Oct 2006 12:05:10 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GesI2-0005uf-MX for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 04:00:25 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GesGh-0005sP-63; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 03:59:10 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 31 Oct 2006 03:58:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GesFy-0005ri-PA for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 03:58:16 -0800 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GesFe-0005rG-1Q for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 03:58:13 -0800 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so1410238ugr for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 03:57:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.244.10 with SMTP id r10mr5948555ugh; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 03:57:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.103.18 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 03:57:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2d3df92a0610310357v5cf7c4a4g7c768b3a1129eb98@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 12:57:50 +0100 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6934_7389392.1162295870044" References: X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-archive-position: 12860 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: exitconsole@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: HeliodoR From: HeliodoR Reply-To: exitconsole@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: reform X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=JAfGkbMIg8x5O0IsHrOEhG4slHSQ-9rYXzs_T2hd6hAsi_hCsg X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 27300 ------=_Part_6934_7389392.1162295870044 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline > removal of ambiguous gIsmu [...] What's the point in removing words and narrowing the vocabulary? > change fa fe fi, to pa re ci [...] That's quite impossible: {barda fi lo mlatu} means "it's big compared to a cat", whereas {barda ci lo mlatu} means "it's big in the property of three cats" (nonsensical enough). > modify lUjvo to make them unambiguous [...] Um... In what way are they ambiguous? > onomatopoeia, we have to have them, how else can you tell a knock knock > joke.ui.u'i? > You're ready to change the language... to make it appropriate... for knock-knock jokes? O_o > standard way to describe shapes > What do you mean exactly? mu'o mi'e darves ------=_Part_6934_7389392.1162295870044 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
> removal of ambiguous gIsmu [...]
 
What's the point in removing words and narrowing the vocabulary?
 
> change fa fe fi, to pa re ci [...]
 
That's quite impossible:
{barda fi lo mlatu} means "it's big compared to a cat", whereas
{barda ci lo mlatu} means "it's big in the property of three cats" (nonsensical enough).
 
> modify lUjvo to make them unambiguous [...]

Um... In what way are they ambiguous?

onomatopoeia, we have to have them, how else can you tell a knock knock joke.ui.u'i?

You're ready to change the language... to make it appropriate... for knock-knock jokes? O_o

 

standard way to describe shapes

What do you mean exactly?
 
 
mu'o mi'e darves
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