From lojban-out@lojban.org Sat Oct 28 02:07:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 90039 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2006 09:07:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Oct 2006 09:07:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Oct 2006 09:07:51 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gdk7K-0005dL-V5 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 02:04:39 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gdk5y-0005cL-CS; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 02:03:19 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 28 Oct 2006 02:03:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gdk5W-0005c7-3K for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 02:02:46 -0700 Received: from mx.211.ru ([193.238.131.194]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gdk5M-0005bK-Nq for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 02:02:45 -0700 Received: from localhost (mx.211.ru [193.238.131.194]) by mx.211.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B6BEBD22 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 16:02:30 +0700 (NOVST) Received: from mx.211.ru ([193.238.131.194]) by localhost (mx.211.ru [193.238.131.194]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02019-03 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 16:02:29 +0700 (NOVST) Received: from mail.211.ru (mail [10.5.1.2]) by mx.211.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02CF9EBD1D for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 16:02:28 +0700 (NOVST) Received: from host-102-2-129.211.ru (host-102-2-129.211.ru [10.102.2.129]) by mail.211.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77FCD5C1B for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 16:02:28 +0700 (NOVST) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 16:02:24 +0700 X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.71.04) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <194627226.20061028160224@mail.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 12816 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ybatura@mail.ru X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Yanis Batura From: Yanis Batura Reply-To: ybatura@mail.ru Subject: [lojban] {ki'i} and {ra'a} X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=L6ccBCRh1MUT0STPRxqz9kxaGL8-FCDqd6UDQv78aVOI-4Baxw X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 27255 {ki'i} and {ra'a} are two BAI cmavo, derived from {ckini} and {srana}, respectively. While there is a clear difference between the two gismu, I cannot grasp very well the difference between the two cmavo. Can anyone explain me it and provide some examples where {ki'i} and {ra'a} don't mean the same? (There is a BPFK section shepherded by R. L. Powell and where both are, but it didn't help me much: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=BPFK+Section%3A+Relational+sumtcita&bl) a'u mi'e .ianis To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.