From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Oct 31 00:22:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 47717 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2006 08:19:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m29.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 Oct 2006 08:19:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Oct 2006 08:19:14 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Geopx-0005vF-Bp for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 00:19:09 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GeopT-0005uO-QI; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 00:18:41 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 31 Oct 2006 00:18:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Geop3-0005tZ-CD for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 00:18:13 -0800 Received: from f71.mail.ru ([194.67.57.222]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Geop0-0005tS-Co for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 00:18:13 -0800 Received: from mail by f71.mail.ru with local id 1Geoox-0004RR-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 11:18:07 +0300 Received: from [212.17.0.61] by win.mail.ru with HTTP; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 11:18:07 +0300 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: mPOP Web-Mail 2.19 Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 11:18:07 +0300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-archive-position: 12850 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ybatura@mail.ru X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Yanis Batura From: Yanis Batura Reply-To: ybatura@mail.ru Subject: [lojban] BPFK definition of {di'o} X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=f2LVrVGzFtclUYeoQRBJ0nAiHJ3wyPJJEZ7oaD0tzfpGQ2nXRQ X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 27290 http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=BPFK+Section%3A+Tense+sumtcita&bl Proposed Definition of di'o di'o (BAI) At the locus of. Tags a sumti as fitting the 1st place of diklo. Augments the bridi in which it occurs, adding an extra, un-numbered place with the meaning of the 1st place of diklo and then fills it with the tagged sumti. In other words, the event described by the bridi is at the locus of the referent of the tagged sumti. See also: se di'o, te di'o, diklo. o Keywords: at. locally at. Examples of di'o Usage .i mi se jibri le sampla di'o la ibubymym. I work with software at IBM. .ue.ua.oi ka'amru di'o le mi stedu Oh my God, there's an axe in my head! ni'o do xabju ma di'o la xrvatsk Where in Croatia do you live? -------------------------------------- The definition and the examples seem very dubious for me, because {diklo} is defined as "x1 is local to x2; x1 is confined to locus x2 within range x3". {di'o} marks x1 of {diklo}, i. e. something that is local or confined to a locus. So {broda di'o da} means that there is / happens {broda} such that {da} is confined to its locus. Consider the example {mi se jibri le sampla di'o la ibubymym}. If {la ibumbum} is x1 of {diklo}, then {la ibumbum} is confined to a locus of where the person works with software. The sentence actually means that the whole IBM is local to where the person works with software! That is something different from "I work with software at IBM"... I hope you got my English. mi'e .ianis To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.