From lojban-out@lojban.org Sun Oct 22 20:12:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 13607 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2006 03:12:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.34) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Oct 2006 03:12:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Oct 2006 03:12:18 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GbqEE-0007g3-7Y for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 20:11:54 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GbqDf-0007ew-LQ; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 20:11:21 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 22 Oct 2006 20:11:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GbqDE-0007el-Cd for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 20:10:52 -0700 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.187]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GbqDC-0007ee-71 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 20:10:52 -0700 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p46so3104412nfa for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 20:10:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.128.11 with SMTP id a11mr6638402hud; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 20:10:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ( [71.112.110.242]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 18sm62430hue.2006.10.22.20.10.47; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 20:10:48 -0700 (PDT) References: <1161570855.453c2a27e9252@webmail.pdx.edu> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 20:10:50 -0700 In-Reply-To: <1161570855.453c2a27e9252@webmail.pdx.edu> (Ryan Keppel's message of "Sun\, 22 Oct 2006 19\:34\:15 -0700") Message-ID: <87d58jiv5x.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-archive-position: 12778 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: tim.thelion@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0 X-eGroups-From: Timothy Hobbs From: Timothy Hobbs Reply-To: tim.thelion@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: Dropping the speech X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=EGbmuKJIKSHKsL2EylVAWrXqaTdv6x1U2wVuyKHH2KdsoBGGCA X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 27216 My mind is a very messy place. You would not like what you might there within discover. It would probably kill you to know my secrets. What am I? I am a teenage boy suffering from existential angst. If I could communicate those feelings to you in a fluid manner you would not enjoy my constant pining. You would find yourself filled with noise from conflicting beliefs. You would find that all knowledge torn to bits, thrown in a room, is not but random utterances. In J.R. Tokens Lord of the Rings, there is a group of beings called the Ents. Do you remember these? Surely you must realise that the effort of language is the thing that keeps us from becoming random. All the mind is, is a bunch of thoughts. It is in the light of consciousness that we chose what to say. We need the barrier of language WE NEED IT! To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.