From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Nov 13 07:24:07 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 13 Nov 2006 07:24:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gjdey-0007vU-PO for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 07:23:44 -0800 Received: from phma.optus.nu ([166.82.175.165] helo=ixazon.dynip.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gjdes-0007v3-8Z for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 07:23:44 -0800 Received: from [192.168.7.3] (unknown [192.168.7.3]) by ixazon.dynip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0C3CE7ED for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:23:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <45588DAE.9000601@phma.optus.nu> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:22:22 -0500 From: Pierre Abbat User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.5 (Windows/20050711) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: "la" rule References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.2 (--) X-archive-position: 13089 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com wrote: > Here's another reason the "la" rule is bad. > As I understand it, ordinary gismu and lujvo can be used as names after > "la". There are 23 gismu beginning with "la-", 16 rafsi beginning with > "la"+consonant, 5 rafsi with "la'V" and 2 rafsi "laV". This means there > are a lot of actual and potential words which act differently from any > other native Lojban words, namely by becoming illegal when used as a > cmene. For this reason alone the "la" rule should be replaced. Using a gismu beginning with "la" as a name is perfectly legal. Dropping its last letter and using it as a cmevla is not. The only one that I see is likely to cause a problem is {lalxu}. I see a few ways to name lakes: la balyton.lelx. la balyton.alx. la balyton.lylx. and the same with {balyton} last. (It's in Hungary.) phma To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.