From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Nov 13 14:03:19 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 13 Nov 2006 14:03:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GjjtM-0000gO-TD for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 14:03:01 -0800 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GjjtM-0000gH-Kl for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 14:03:00 -0800 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 14:03:00 -0800 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: "la" rule Message-ID: <20061113220300.GI24729@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20061113201734.GE24729@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <20061113204805.48815.qmail@web81309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061113204805.48815.qmail@web81309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 13107 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 12:48:05PM -0800, John E Clifford wrote: > (I don't think the {lAItl} can be read as a sumti {lai tl}). Of course it can. > > > Clearly, humans sort these out, shouldn't the parser do so as > > > well? > > > > ... > > > > Short answer: "No; machine recognition of ambiguous languages is > > AI-hard." > > But here the range of ambiguity is so small as to allow a short > dirty run through alternatives -- or so it seems intuitively. If we just allow la willy-nilly, there is *no way* for a parser to tell if a speaker who says {laSTIvn.LAItl} means {la stivn laitl} or {la stivn lai tl}, except for knowing the semantics of the language. With the current rule, only the latter is correct. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.