From lojban-out@lojban.org Sun Nov 12 19:18:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 1047 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2006 03:14:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m40.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Nov 2006 03:14:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Nov 2006 03:14:36 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GjSEF-0004kP-IY for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 19:11:23 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GjSDd-0004jk-WB; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 19:10:49 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 12 Nov 2006 19:10:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GjSDB-0004jU-Am for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 19:10:17 -0800 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GjSDB-0004jN-1J for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 19:10:17 -0800 Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 19:10:17 -0800 Message-ID: <20061113031017.GY17734@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <975041737.20061112220718@mail.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <975041737.20061112220718@mail.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-archive-position: 13076 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -3.1 (---) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Project: Intensive Course of Spoken Lojban X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=knW6TosgpqHHNzSOJBslTdfV_r64C1dFYWvMK_p1DacrAMM5cQ X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 27509 On Sun, Nov 12, 2006 at 10:07:18PM +0600, Yanis Batura wrote: > While this is, of course, sufficient for slow-paced, solid > *written* translation to and from Lojban, it's not at all > sufficient for getting anyone to the shiny peak of Lojban speaking > proficiency. The only available serious educational material, LFB, > misses one of the most significant parts: teaching of lexics of > the language. I mean, intensive teaching of useful, everyday > lexics that cover 95% of common speech situations. I have no idea what "lexics" means. > Besides, speaking practice (a critical requirement in mastering of > spoken Lojban) is now only a dream for beginners. Why? Because > there are no Lojban speakers. :) le'o nai I speak it pretty comfortably. I've been trying to do regular phone chats (Story Time With Uncle Robin). Of course, I'm moving right now, but I'll start them up again. Have you come to any voice chats at all? > Let us: > > - Decide what lexics are most important I still don't know what this means. > - Create examples of their usage > > - Create excersizes > > - Record samples of our speech If you give me things to say and promise to deal with the post-production, I will record me saying them. I hope other Lojbanists will similarily promise. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.