From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Nov 06 11:01:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 9868 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2006 18:52:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m32.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Nov 2006 18:52:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 2006 18:52:39 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gh9UA-0002eD-1z for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:46:18 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gh9SS-0002bC-A8; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:44:36 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:44:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gh9S0-0002al-UF for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:44:05 -0800 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gh9S0-0002ad-HZ for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:44:04 -0800 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 10:44:04 -0800 Message-ID: <20061106184404.GY13321@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <1575091447.20061106223502@mail.ru> <925d17560611061009p428d2477g680d2a0baad2dbf8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-archive-position: 12920 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -3.1 (---) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: livejournal discrimination X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=xj_dEETUN9k1esCAJlvYjnEbvxLVOcpbhbhgPB04DvJnREKhNA X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 27360 On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 01:34:28PM -0500, Matt Arnold wrote: > My apologies. I have been informed by those who know much more > about Lojban that Lokadin's orthography is permitted in official > Lojban. They sent some stuff about "camxes" and "valfendi", which > are apparently parsers that I've never heard of. camxes is http://teddyb.org/~rlpowell/hobbies/lojban/grammar/index.html Since there's a non-trivial chance it'll become the official parse, you may want to look at it. I can't find where valfendi lives these days; it's a morphology-only parser from the official morphology commision, now semi-defunct. More relevantly, stress+pauses is the only way to safely transcribe spoken Lojban; the only real question is how to indicate stress. Different people have different preferences on this. Having said all that, it's still amazingly reader-hostile and obnoxious, and I wish he (Lokadin) would stop doing it. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.