From lojban-out@lojban.org Fri Nov 10 07:37:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 43497 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2006 15:32:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m32.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Nov 2006 15:32:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 2006 15:32:29 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GiYGe-0001QN-Nd for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 07:26:08 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GiYF9-0001GF-Nt; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 07:24:44 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 10 Nov 2006 07:24:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GiYEf-0001Fy-3g for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 07:24:05 -0800 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.239]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GiYEW-0001Fq-Dt for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 07:24:04 -0800 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i3so79845wra for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 07:23:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.127.2 with SMTP id z2mr2700408huc.1163172220928; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 07:23:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ( [71.112.110.242]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 33sm3256098hue.2006.11.10.07.23.38; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 07:23:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <45542D8E.9090605@lojban.org> (Bob LeChevalier's message of "Fri\, 10 Nov 2006 02\:43\:10 -0500") References: <200611081049.40483.colin.wright@denbridgemarine.com> <45533464.7080901@lojban.org> <4553A799.5010907@lojban.org> <20061110061200.GF23121@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <45542D8E.9090605@lojban.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 07:23:29 -0800 Message-ID: <87d57vnx5a.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 13040 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: tim.thelion@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0 X-eGroups-From: Timothy Hobbs From: Timothy Hobbs Reply-To: tim.thelion@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: livejournal discrimination X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=5bhkTSnJ8ILdcnN0LU1ubwJrjSrqRd7TLYldvrDD02R9LRL48A X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 27477 Bob LeChevalier writes: > Hugh O'Byrne wrote: >> I know that's what he said. The welfare of the community I referred >> to is not 'being on speaking terms with LOkadin', but 'accomodating >> polite debate even in the face of differing individuals' opinions'. >> >> He wants the lokadin discussion to end >> because it's pointless, that's all. >> >> >> That's *not* what he said. He wants the discussion to end because >> the discussion doesn't serve his purposes. > > I want discussion to end because the discussion doesn't serve the > community purposes. I don't have any purposes independent of the > community purposes; those who know the history are quite aware of > this. > > Don't you think that maybe in 26 years of working on Loglan/Lojban, > and 16 years leading the effort and the community, that I have gotten > a little experience in recognizing when a counterproductive debate has > started and indeed gone on too long? and thus you join one side. ASS. Don't say that you have experience leading, for being boastful is a thing that a good leader never does. And, what is productive? This debate, is infact, probably making it so that lojbanists are thinking about lojban more. If it infact so counterproductive, then why do people continue it? If you want the debate to stop, you need only to not reply to this email. > > lojbab > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.