From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Nov 20 13:11:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 91743 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2006 21:08:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.36) by m28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Nov 2006 21:08:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Nov 2006 21:08:09 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GmFQO-0000xe-2V for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 12:07:28 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GmFOc-0000qD-VT; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 12:05:47 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 20 Nov 2006 12:05:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GmFO5-0000p3-QK for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 12:05:05 -0800 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.178]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GmFO1-0000om-M5 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 12:05:05 -0800 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id a29so1024105pyi for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 12:05:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.43.10 with SMTP id v10mr191021pyj.1164053068062; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 12:04:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.22.14 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 12:04:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560611201204l6a6b59dbuece7d7cb70a06e6b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:04:27 -0300 In-Reply-To: <4560FB73.5060706@lojban.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <492596e80611182014o7608f9d3k76f7247f5926b98b@mail.gmail.com> <1df90d2b0611182026yeb05a5eo95f815883cb20fd@mail.gmail.com> <836504149.20061119104734@mail.ru> <4560FB73.5060706@lojban.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 13219 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" Reply-To: jjllambias@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: ki'a X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=EMGTyuIMvKcJpMKvxZ1wFwAHBqHL0oZufKuP96o0lXbu4JUFvQ X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 27653 On 11/19/06, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > Yanis Batura wrote: > > > {pinpedi} is a stage 4 fu'ivla, like {djirafa}, {alga}, {caxmati} etc. > > And is an example of why I am opposed to inventing stage 4 fu'ivla at > this point in the language evolution - as we can see, no one has any > idea what it means. I suppose that "no one" is meant as hyperbole, but anyway, I can immediately think of five people who did have an idea: Pierre, who coined the fu'ivla timos, who used it, Adam and Yanis, who at least knew to look for it in jbovlaste, and myself, who had used it at least twice, in and in , and now it can also be found in > A fu'ivla should remain a Type III - marked by a > semantic-hint rafsi - until its usage is so common that usage (and/or > Zipf's law) indicates a need for a shorter form. I don't think that any > fu'ivla has received such usage. pe'i lo cimoi klesi fu'ivla cu mablrmonstrositi gi'e rirci lo ka mi zmanei ke'a lo vomoi klesi mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.