From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Nov 13 10:57:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 98346 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2006 18:53:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.34) by m31.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Nov 2006 18:53:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Nov 2006 18:53:17 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GjgpZ-0004Bi-SN for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:46:54 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gjgnx-0004AL-EN; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:45:24 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:45:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GjgnU-00049c-3k for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:44:44 -0800 Received: from silene.metacarta.com ([65.77.47.18]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GjgnL-00049I-On for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:44:43 -0800 Received: from localhost (silene.metacarta.com [65.77.47.18]) by silene.metacarta.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B7014C833E for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 13:44:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from silene.metacarta.com ([65.77.47.18]) by localhost (silene.metacarta.com [65.77.47.18]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06399-02 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 13:44:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from [65.77.47.178] (cheyenne.metacarta.com [65.77.47.178]) by silene.metacarta.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D7F14C83A9 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 13:44:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4558BD0A.2030602@ropine.com> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 13:44:26 -0500 User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20060926) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <45589298.20904@lojban.org> In-Reply-To: <45589298.20904@lojban.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at metacarta.com X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 13095 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: sethg@ropine.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Seth Gordon From: Seth Gordon Reply-To: sethg@ropine.com Subject: [lojban] Re: "la" rule X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=BgmxmAziEYRwspVfSDlzlgX3Efi15Qzy0G5wP03BJy7tk6buhw X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 27527 Bob LeChevalier wrote: > ONLY if a word is in cmene form is it illegal to have a "la". Using a > gismu or lujvo or a fu'ivla as a name ("la latmo" for "Latin") has no > restriction. > > Indeed, I would imagine that native Lojbanists would indeed use brivla > to name things, rather than Lojbanize foreign words. That is indeed how > several languages work. The tutorial and reference material on Lojban that I've seen don't say a lot about this option. E.g., _lojban. bei loi co'a cilre_ suggests that since "Mei Li" is Chinese for "beautiful", then someone named Mei Li could Lojbanize her name as "la melb." But why not "la melbi"? Perhaps the authors of all these works just assumed that they didn't need to spell out this aspect of the grammar because it was so obvious, but it wasn't obvious to me.... To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.