From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Nov 06 11:50:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 21517 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2006 19:45:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Nov 2006 19:45:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 2006 19:45:58 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GhAGZ-0003ky-Te for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:36:20 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GhAF4-0003jm-0Y; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:34:50 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:34:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GhAEX-0003jX-Pt for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:34:13 -0800 Received: from web56413.mail.re3.yahoo.com ([216.252.111.92]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GhAES-0003jJ-Lc for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:34:13 -0800 Received: (qmail 72558 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Nov 2006 19:34:06 -0000 Message-ID: <20061106193406.72556.qmail@web56413.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Received: from [75.2.69.233] by web56413.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:34:06 PST Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 11:34:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <878xioqtu4.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1734640731-1162841646=:71519" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-archive-position: 12923 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: nathanielkrause@yahoo.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Nathaniel Krause From: Nathaniel Krause Reply-To: nathanielkrause@yahoo.com Subject: [lojban] Re: livejournal discrimination X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=qKUYxd-1-Zf0A_A4OSlHFVtrEsev4DFMy1zBE_hc4JlKbC0UFw X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 27363 --0-1734640731-1162841646=:71519 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit My understanding is that a space in lojban writing indicates an optional pause. That is, one must pause at a {.}, one may pause at a { }, and one must not pause at any other place. Therefore, a lojban passage written down with no spaces and only showing stress may be the most accurate way to describe that sentence as uttered in one instance, but it might be inaccurate with regard to another instance. mi'e .sen. Timothy Hobbs wrote: I think it is kind of interesting that in theory, if lojban is written down the same way it is spoken, which is what I always thought, that one might use no spaces, but still capitalise for stress. Then it really would be written down in the way that it was spoken, and that would be wonderful. As for those of you that find it difficult to read, I think that it could become, with practice, much easier, because, you could, by looking at the shape of a sentence, and just a few letters, know what the sentence was, providing it didn't contain names. --------------------------------- Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail. --0-1734640731-1162841646=:71519 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit My understanding is that a space in lojban writing indicates an optional pause. That is, one must pause at a {.}, one may pause at a { }, and one must not pause at any other place. Therefore, a lojban passage written down with no spaces and only showing stress may be the most accurate way to describe that sentence as uttered in one instance, but it might be inaccurate with regard to another instance.

mi'e .sen.

Timothy Hobbs <tim.thelion@gmail.com> wrote:
I think it is kind of interesting that in theory, if lojban is written down the same way it is spoken, which is what I always thought, that one might use no spaces, but still capitalise for stress. Then it really would be written down in the way that it was spoken, and that would be wonderful. As for those of you that find it difficult to read, I think that it could become, with practice, much easier, because, you could, by looking at the shape of a sentence, and just a few letters, know what the sentence was, providing it didn't contain names.

Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail. --0-1734640731-1162841646=:71519--