From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Nov 09 19:19:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 46425 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2006 03:10:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.34) by m30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Nov 2006 03:10:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 2006 03:10:02 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GiMlt-0002fj-Uc for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 19:09:38 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GiMl3-0002em-80; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 19:08:49 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 09 Nov 2006 19:08:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GiMkW-0002eb-Tv for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 19:08:13 -0800 Received: from f64.mail.ru ([194.67.57.98]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GiMkT-0002eU-5X for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 19:08:12 -0800 Received: from mail by f64.mail.ru with local id 1GiMkR-0002wv-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 06:08:07 +0300 Received: from [212.17.0.61] by win.mail.ru with HTTP; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 06:08:07 +0300 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: mPOP Web-Mail 2.19 Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 06:08:07 +0300 In-Reply-To: =?windows-1251?Q?<4553E903.4050209=40kli.org>?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 13023 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ybatura@mail.ru X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Yanis Batura From: Yanis Batura Reply-To: ybatura@mail.ru Subject: [lojban] Re: livejournal discrimination X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=mKlgsWUIe1AuAi8MltaKP5o1MhaIG73H_FgkrfV1GtuI-jOPtg X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 27464 -----Original Message----- From: "Mark E. Shoulson" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:50:43 -0500 Subject: [lojban] Re: livejournal discrimination > Maybe. IMO this whole discussion has been blown way out of proportion. > But to the point of your post, Lojban may not like tinkerers too much, > but there's nothing wrong with developing another language based on it. > There was jimc's -gua!spi, not directly based on Lo[jg][bl]an but with > similar underpinnings in logic... And I think Cheqli or some spelling > like that? Go forth and make a logical language. Lojban definitely has > its quirks, nobody will deny that. Every brilliant project winds up > this way after a few years, with people thinking how they would re-do > things if it were done more cleanly from day one. The projects you come > up with, if they last that long, will probably also wind up this way. > But you might find something interesting along the way, as we found with > Lojban, for all its problems. I am not at all welcoming or willing to introduce any changes for Lojban. Moreover, I am in the conservative minority against dots before names. Like lojbab himself I think that Lojban needs users and not developers. Why I asked was mere curiosity, because the history of Loglan - Lojban split is a mistery covered with mystery - for me and (I think) for all other newcomers. mi'e .ianis To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.