From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Nov 13 14:31:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 9322 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2006 22:27:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Nov 2006 22:27:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Nov 2006 22:27:29 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gjk9Q-0000zV-7V for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 14:19:36 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gjk8o-0000yp-3z; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 14:19:02 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 13 Nov 2006 14:18:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gjk8N-0000yc-1Q for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 14:18:31 -0800 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gjk8M-0000yV-Nk for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 14:18:30 -0800 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 14:18:30 -0800 Message-ID: <20061113221830.GK24729@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <325816428.20061113190842@mail.ru> <20061113171203.GD24729@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <4558B5C3.9020006@kli.org> <87d57rxf3v.fsf@gmail.com> <4558E2A1.9010907@lojban.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4558E2A1.9010907@lojban.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-archive-position: 13109 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -3.1 (---) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: "la" rule X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=k1Q4HVyPPOiQ8H3-8qo5Ii2bczQ4dbSa7r0p1pD4XVN4jJyQNg X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 27542 On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 04:24:49PM -0500, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > But if people were regularly running their text through checkers > that caught such errors, I indeed think that people would stop > making the errors. Human beings don't parse like machines, and > thus accept things that a machine might not find legal. That just > means that we need machines to help teach us to follow some of the > rules. 1. The official parser *does* accept {la.stivn.laitl.} as la followed by two cmene. So if you're right that all we need is computer training, we've already been having it for some time now, and it agrees with the proposed rule and not current rule. 2. When you've written such a tool, let me know. Right now, you have no evidence that this is a human learnable rule; you're just having a pipe dream. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.