From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Nov 23 05:48:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 40720 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2006 13:42:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.34) by m39.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Nov 2006 13:42:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.66.169) by mta8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Nov 2006 13:42:21 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GnEq4-0005Hv-MZ for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 05:42:05 -0800 Received: from dsl081-066-169.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.66.169] helo=chain.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GnEo7-0005G6-16; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 05:40:27 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 23 Nov 2006 05:39:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GnEnS-0005FP-PP for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 05:39:23 -0800 Received: from web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.199.121]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GnEnK-0005Ec-Jn for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 05:39:21 -0800 Received: (qmail 51787 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Nov 2006 13:39:13 -0000 Message-ID: <20061123133913.51785.qmail@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [70.237.213.146] by web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 05:39:13 PST Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 05:39:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-archive-position: 13256 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: clifford-j@sbcglobal.net X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.66.169 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: John E Clifford From: John E Clifford Reply-To: clifford-j@sbcglobal.net Subject: [lojban] Re: semantic category vs. gender X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=fMc65CRZ4-D2UMHgOr_SlpRcqMQTXLjI_ewjC3baEhHPsWTt4g X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 27691 And, of course, the countless cases that cut against the apparent semantic classes: ships are feminine in English, farmers and sailors are feminine in Latin, all small/young/dear things are neuter in German, and so on. --- MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com wrote: > In a message dated 11/23/2006 4:23:18 AM Central Standard Time, > ecartis@digitalkingdom.org writes: > > > > Gender in language IS a form of semantic classifier, having only 1 or 2 > > or 3 categories in Indo-European languages (and thus being rather > > useless most of the time, but apparently useful enough that most IE > > languages have those categories), but having larger numbers of > > genders/categories in other languages. > > > > lojbab > > > > I doubt that gender in European languages is really a semantic category, > beyond the obvious few words relating directly to sexual entities. > > stevo > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.