From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Nov 13 21:57:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 93814 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2006 05:52:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.35) by m26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Nov 2006 05:52:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2006 05:52:18 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gjr9i-00033u-5H for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:48:22 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gjr7S-00032O-W8; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:46:07 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:45:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gjr6z-00032C-4Z for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:45:33 -0800 Received: from f93.mail.ru ([194.67.57.163]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gjr6u-00031w-Eg for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:45:32 -0800 Received: from mail by f93.mail.ru with local id 1Gjr6s-0006PF-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 08:45:26 +0300 Received: from [212.17.0.61] by win.mail.ru with HTTP; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 08:45:26 +0300 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: mPOP Web-Mail 2.19 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 08:45:26 +0300 In-Reply-To: =?windows-1251?Q?<45595471.3070203=40phma.optus.nu>?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 13158 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ybatura@mail.ru X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Yanis Batura From: Yanis Batura Reply-To: ybatura@mail.ru Subject: [lojban] Re: "la" rule X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=6VGjoaxqHb2PZXRmTaNj3XljBk3aDzODm8UH8roPzDQ1BgnHsA X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 27592 -----Original Message----- From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-list@lojban.org Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 00:30:25 -0500 Subject: [lojban] Re: "la" rule > People have made the error the other way too. I was looking at Wikipedia > and saw an article [[vlydimir.lenin]]. If the "la", "lai", "la'i", or > "doi" is preceded by a consonant, its presence does not invalidate the > name, e.g. {blabruk}. > As to {malak}, the part after "la" is less than a syllable. Probably he > didn't realize that you have to break everywhere a vowel is followed by > a consonant, including the last one. A single consonant is a valid > cmevla, such as {r}, the "god of hesitation". That would explain > overlooking {laitl} also; {tl} has no vowel. But then neither does {clsn}. > The "la" rule is still a lot simpler than validating fu'ivla, which > requires doing slinku'i tests and checking for lujvo. I strongly doubt that you will coin and verify new stage 4 fu'ivla in realtime speech. The situation is different with the {la} rule when untrained people frequently let slip those nasty {la}s to cmene. mi'e .ianis To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.