From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Nov 23 04:51:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 6529 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2006 12:43:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m39.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Nov 2006 12:43:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.66.169) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Nov 2006 12:43:12 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GnDtU-0003t1-3k for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 04:41:33 -0800 Received: from dsl081-066-169.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.66.169] helo=chain.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GnDrm-00024y-Rv; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 04:39:52 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 23 Nov 2006 04:39:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GnDr8-0000hr-OT for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 04:39:07 -0800 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.180]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GnDr3-0000Tz-Ex for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 04:39:06 -0800 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id a29so301701pyi for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 04:38:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.39.13 with SMTP id r13mr3309791pyj.1164285538290; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 04:38:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.22.14 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 04:38:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560611230438x79a8a153l96cc7e639c5e3bb3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 09:38:57 -0300 In-Reply-To: <4565329B.4090100@lojban.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline References: <492596e80611182014o7608f9d3k76f7247f5926b98b@mail.gmail.com> <1df90d2b0611182026yeb05a5eo95f815883cb20fd@mail.gmail.com> <836504149.20061119104734@mail.ru> <4560FB73.5060706@lojban.org> <4810154213.20061120071558@mail.ru> <45622725.7010705@lojban.org> <45652CE8.5000800@phma.optus.nu> <4565329B.4090100@lojban.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 13254 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.66.169 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" Reply-To: jjllambias@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: ki'a X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=OlXPM3EBAHk1Bw2LUdL70tOvVtHbXG2Q59Mg22id5Z347TrBgg X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 27689 PDwKZ2VuwrdkZXIKbi4KR3JhbW1hci4KQSBncmFtbWF0aWNhbCBjYXRlZ29yeSB1c2VkIGlu IHRoZSBjbGFzc2lmaWNhdGlvbiBvZiBub3VucywgcHJvbm91bnMsCmFkamVjdGl2ZXMsIGFu ZCwgaW4gc29tZSBsYW5ndWFnZXMsIHZlcmJzIHRoYXQgbWF5IGJlIGFyYml0cmFyeSBvcgpi YXNlZCBvbiBjaGFyYWN0ZXJpc3RpY3Mgc3VjaCBhcyBzZXggb3IgYW5pbWFjeSBhbmQgdGhh dCBkZXRlcm1pbmVzCmFncmVlbWVudCB3aXRoIG9yIHNlbGVjdGlvbiBvZiBtb2RpZmllcnMs IHJlZmVyZW50cywgb3IgZ3JhbW1hdGljYWwKZm9ybXMuCgpnZW5kZXIKCm4gMTogYSBncmFt bWF0aWNhbCBjYXRlZ29yeSBpbiBpbmZsZWN0ZWQgbGFuZ3VhZ2VzIGdvdmVybmluZyB0aGUK YWdyZWVtZW50IGJldHdlZW4gbm91bnMgYW5kIHByb25vdW5zIGFuZCBhZGplY3RpdmVzOyBp biBzb21lIGxhbmd1YWdlcwppdCBpcyBxdWl0ZSBhcmJpdHJhcnkgYnV0IGluIEluZG8tRXVy b3BlYW4gbGFuZ3VhZ2VzIGl0IGlzIHVzdWFsbHkKYmFzZWQgb24gc2V4IG9yIGFuaW1hdGVu ZXNzIFtzeW46IGdyYW1tYXRpY2FsIGdlbmRlcl0KCgpjbGFz4oCnc2nigKdmaeKAp2VyCjMu IEdyYW1tYXIuIChpbiBDaGluZXNlLCBKYXBhbmVzZSwgYW5kIG90aGVyIGxhbmd1YWdlcykg YSB3b3JkIG9yCm1vcnBoZW1lIHRoYXQgY29ycmVzcG9uZHMgdG8gYSBzZW1hbnRpYyBjbGFz cyBvZiBub3VucyBhbmQgcmVndWxhcmx5CmFjY29tcGFuaWVzIGFueSBub3VuIG9mIHRoYXQg Y2xhc3MgaW4gY2VydGFpbiBzeW50YWN0aWMgY29uc3RydWN0aW9ucywKc3VjaCBhcyB0aG9z ZSBvZiBudW1lcmF0aW9uLgoKY2xhc8K3c2nCt2ZpwrdlcgpuLgpBIHdvcmQgb3IgbW9ycGhl bWUgdXNlZCBpbiBzb21lIGxhbmd1YWdlcyBpbiBjZXJ0YWluIGNvbnRleHRzLCBzdWNoIGFz CmNvdW50aW5nLCB0aGF0IGluZGljYXRlcyB0aGUgc2VtYW50aWMgY2xhc3MgdG8gd2hpY2gg YW4gaXRlbSBiZWxvbmdzLgpGb3IgZXhhbXBsZSwgaG9uIGlzIHVzZWQgaW4gSmFwYW5lc2Ug aW4gY291bnRpbmcgbG9uZyBzbGVuZGVyIG9iamVjdHMKc3VjaCBhcyBzdGlja3Mgb3IgcGVu Y2lscy4KPj4KClNvLCBpZiBMb2piYW4gaGFzIGdlbmRlciBpbiB0aGUgbm9ybWFsIGxpbmd1 aXN0aWMgc2Vuc2UgKGEgZ3JhbW1hdGljYWwKY2F0ZWdvcnkgZ292ZXJuaW5nIGFncmVlbWVu dCksIHRoZW4gaXQgaGFzIDIzIGdlbmRlcnMsIHRoZSBhYnUtZ2VuZGVyLAp0aGUgYnktZ2Vu ZGVyLCB0aGUgY3ktZ2VuZGVyLCBldGMuCgpUaGUgcmFmc2kgY2xhc3NpZmllcnMgYXJlIHNv bWV3aGF0IG1vcmUgbGlrZSBjbGFzc2lmaWVycywgYnV0IG5vdCBxdWl0ZSwKYXMgdGhleSBh cmUgbm90IHVzZWQgb25seSBpbiBjZXJ0YWluIGNvbnRleHRzLiBUaGV5IGFyZSBtdWNoIG1v cmUKYXMgUGllcnJlIHNheXMgbGlrZSB0aGUgImZpc2giIGluICJraWxsaWZpc2giIG9yIHRo ZSAiYmVycnkiIGluICJyYXNwYmVycnkiLgpJIGRvbid0IGtub3cgd2hhdCB0aGV5IGFyZSBj YWxsZWQsIGJ1dCBub3QgZ2VuZGVycy4KCm11