From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Nov 13 17:45:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 76721 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2006 01:35:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m33.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Nov 2006 01:35:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2006 01:35:12 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GjnCJ-0005hI-ME for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 17:34:47 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GjnBe-0005fy-Jh; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 17:34:15 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 13 Nov 2006 17:33:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GjnBE-0005fF-3C for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 17:33:40 -0800 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GjnBD-0005f5-N3 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 17:33:39 -0800 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 17:33:39 -0800 Message-ID: <20061114013339.GB24729@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <325816428.20061113190842@mail.ru> <20061113171203.GD24729@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <4558B5C3.9020006@kli.org> <87d57rxf3v.fsf@gmail.com> <4558E2A1.9010907@lojban.org> <4558F43D.4070601@kli.org> <45591BFC.7080808@lojban.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45591BFC.7080808@lojban.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-archive-position: 13136 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: "la" rule X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=HRo4B8Bb3TeVX8HvbH-1FmomPVPirmXWM8U3lrrTNb3xyo6lCQ X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 27569 On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 08:29:32PM -0500, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > The la rule isn't required with standard (spaces included) > orthography, and without a speaking community. When we have a > skilled speaking community, we can find out whether la in names in > the spoken language causes problems for humans - after all, humans > can parse English and other human languages successfully, and they > aren't audiovisually isomorphic. So it's OK to leave a rule that people will often violate because people can deal with that sort of thing? That's just... It's like you *want* to kill Lojban. I want a language that will *actually* have audio-visual isomorphism. In practice. With real people. You, if the above is to be believed, don't actually care about that. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.