From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Nov 23 06:43:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 32914 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2006 14:35:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m37.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Nov 2006 14:35:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.66.169) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Nov 2006 14:35:42 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GnFWS-0006cA-Gf for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 06:25:52 -0800 Received: from dsl081-066-169.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.66.169] helo=chain.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GnFTB-0006Vx-0v; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 06:22:35 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 23 Nov 2006 06:22:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GnFSi-0006V2-1p for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 06:22:00 -0800 Received: from web81309.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.199.125]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GnFSa-0006Uq-Be for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 06:21:59 -0800 Received: (qmail 47154 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Nov 2006 14:21:51 -0000 Message-ID: <20061123142151.47152.qmail@web81309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [70.237.213.146] by web81309.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 06:21:51 PST Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 06:21:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20061123133913.51785.qmail@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-archive-position: 13257 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: clifford-j@sbcglobal.net X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.66.169 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: John E Clifford From: John E Clifford Reply-To: clifford-j@sbcglobal.net Subject: [lojban] Re: semantic category vs. gender X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=FB2H9Pl__fV_0Lwebt9XlwIQLi_QJpuDx_SN5xLAAN7-O6NSJQ X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 27692 Oh yeah, and the largest mountain in Africa is classified as a small thing in Swahili (ki-lima-njaro, little hill Njaro). --- John E Clifford wrote: > And, of course, the countless cases that cut against the apparent semantic classes: ships are > feminine in English, farmers and sailors are feminine in Latin, all small/young/dear things are > neuter in German, and so on. > > --- MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 11/23/2006 4:23:18 AM Central Standard Time, > > ecartis@digitalkingdom.org writes: > > > > > > > Gender in language IS a form of semantic classifier, having only 1 or 2 > > > or 3 categories in Indo-European languages (and thus being rather > > > useless most of the time, but apparently useful enough that most IE > > > languages have those categories), but having larger numbers of > > > genders/categories in other languages. > > > > > > lojbab > > > > > > > I doubt that gender in European languages is really a semantic category, > > beyond the obvious few words relating directly to sexual entities. > > > > stevo > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.