From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Nov 09 23:52:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 60616 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2006 07:46:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.36) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Nov 2006 07:46:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 2006 07:46:42 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GiR5x-00083v-Kc for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 23:46:37 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GiR4u-000830-00; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 23:45:40 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 09 Nov 2006 23:45:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GiR4S-00082b-RX for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 23:45:05 -0800 Received: from eastrmmtao04.cox.net ([68.230.240.35]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GiR4N-000828-BA for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 23:45:04 -0800 Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao04.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.06.03 201-2131-130-104-20060516) with ESMTP id <20061110074502.BWTE20226.eastrmmtao04.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 02:45:02 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([72.192.234.183]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id kvkJ1V00V3y5FKc0000000; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 02:44:20 -0500 Message-ID: <45542D8E.9090605@lojban.org> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 02:43:10 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200611081049.40483.colin.wright@denbridgemarine.com> <45533464.7080901@lojban.org> <4553A799.5010907@lojban.org> <20061110061200.GF23121@chain.digitalkingdom.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 13036 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Bob LeChevalier From: Bob LeChevalier Reply-To: lojbab@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: livejournal discrimination X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=XJxAHVQBIByzynrOe_SrppqaEAeB1BJCm4dLfUVNWSlJvP34ZQ X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 27475 Hugh O'Byrne wrote: > I know that's what he said. The welfare of the community I referred to > is not 'being on speaking terms with LOkadin', but 'accomodating polite > debate even in the face of differing individuals' opinions'. > > He wants the lokadin discussion to end > because it's pointless, that's all. > > > That's *not* what he said. He wants the discussion to end because the > discussion doesn't serve his purposes. I want discussion to end because the discussion doesn't serve the community purposes. I don't have any purposes independent of the community purposes; those who know the history are quite aware of this. Don't you think that maybe in 26 years of working on Loglan/Lojban, and 16 years leading the effort and the community, that I have gotten a little experience in recognizing when a counterproductive debate has started and indeed gone on too long? lojbab To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.