From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Nov 08 17:41:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 52957 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2006 01:39:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Nov 2006 01:39:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 2006 01:39:57 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ghyrz-0007zn-GA for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:38:19 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GhyrM-0007z7-Gd; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:37:44 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:37:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ghyqv-0007yu-7P for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:37:13 -0800 Received: from phma.optus.nu ([166.82.175.165] helo=ixazon.dynip.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ghyqr-0007yk-OI for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:37:13 -0800 Received: from [192.168.7.3] (unknown [192.168.7.3]) by ixazon.dynip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0815CE799 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 20:36:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <45528614.5000104@phma.optus.nu> Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:36:20 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.5 (Windows/20050711) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-archive-position: 12957 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.2 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Pierre Abbat From: Pierre Abbat Reply-To: phma@phma.optus.nu Subject: [lojban] Lojban customary measuring units X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=WislzMin1anSQnL8YjqoN_wt8ibD4VChnj4YK5Zmk1IrwirMxg X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 27398 What were measuring practices like in Lojbanistan before it went metric? There are few units, so it's hard to tell. Other customary systems have a lot more units. Take length, for instance. The English system has point, line, barleycorn, inch, foot, ell, yard, fathom, rod, chain, furlong, mile, and league. The Lojban system has gucti and minli. For weight the Indian system has tola, chittak, seer, and maund. The English system has grain, scruple, dram, ounce, pound, and ton (not counting Avoirdupois and Troy versions). The ancient Hebrew system had gerah, beqa, pim, sheqel, mina, and talent (kikkar). The Lojban system has only bunda. I think I found one of the missing units: the fi'urvo is 1/4 dekpu. Anyone know what the others are, or how many gucti are in a minli, or square gucti in a kramu or cubic gucti in a dekpu? Pierre To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.