From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Nov 13 13:55:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 50204 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2006 21:47:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m37.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Nov 2006 21:47:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Nov 2006 21:47:42 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GjjbP-0008JD-6C for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 13:44:27 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gjjak-0008Hv-Jx; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 13:43:54 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 13 Nov 2006 13:43:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GjjaJ-0008Hc-Cr for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 13:43:19 -0800 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.172]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GjjaE-0008HL-8N for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 13:43:19 -0800 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id c2so1103726ugf for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 13:43:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.201.15 with SMTP id y15mr199528huf.1163454190548; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 13:43:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.144.3 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 13:43:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 16:43:10 -0500 In-Reply-To: <4558E2A1.9010907@lojban.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <325816428.20061113190842@mail.ru> <20061113171203.GD24729@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <4558B5C3.9020006@kli.org> <87d57rxf3v.fsf@gmail.com> <4558E2A1.9010907@lojban.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 13106 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "Matt Arnold" From: "Matt Arnold" Reply-To: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: "la" rule X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=sDWwL65eUfxlvMyXDbx9oEFJuAd3eo_w2LuovhdmNL2ZD7x5oA X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 27539 On 11/13/06, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > the numerous > unofficial parser projects have been reinventing the wheel in a variety > of different ways, to different ends, and haven't (to my knowledge) been > incorporating advances in the diagnostics. > > But if people were regularly running their text through checkers that > caught such errors, I indeed think that people would stop making the > errors. Human beings don't parse like machines, and thus accept things > that a machine might not find legal. That just means that we need > machines to help teach us to follow some of the rules. > > lojbab In my opinion, easy-to-use computer prosthetics embedded into a Firefox extension would be a major milestone for the language. It would be as if we had a native speaker to teach us. Admittedly, Lojban is not a computer language, but it has unique advantages for computer diagnostics, and therefore computers should be our teachers. We should be able to use ubiquitous built-in Lojban parsing tools to prompt us every time we make a mistake in Lojban. -Eppcott To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.