From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Nov 08 01:29:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 64286 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2006 09:20:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Nov 2006 09:20:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2006 09:20:36 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GhjaH-0002Lt-1C for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 01:19:01 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GhjYi-0002KR-JY; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 01:17:27 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 08 Nov 2006 01:17:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GhjYD-0002Jw-4r for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 01:16:53 -0800 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.173]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GhjY7-0002Jo-DR for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 01:16:52 -0800 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id c2so233025ugf for ; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 01:16:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.117.10 with SMTP id p10mr9491602huc.1162977404349; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 01:16:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.124.16 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 01:16:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 04:16:39 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20061107230145.GK32108@chain.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_15440_18096943.1162977399280" References: <2d3df92a0611070636v75a3ec2ds1c422cc7cc9e1ec3@mail.gmail.com> <20061107230145.GK32108@chain.digitalkingdom.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-archive-position: 12943 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: andrii.z@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "Andrii (lOkadin) Zvorygin" From: "Andrii (lOkadin) Zvorygin" Reply-To: andrii.z@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: coirodo.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=tDHCD4Qtp3MTOR1FsAjna-lbHcz1a1nqPceLFVZFMhaiinCeDw X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 27384 ------=_Part_15440_18096943.1162977399280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 11/7/06, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > n Tue, Nov 07, 2006 at 05:48:29PM -0500, Andrii (lOkadin) Zvorygin wrote: > > .ixudapema'acujIkcalamIkal.wAlas.poifIntila'o.py. > > http://coirodo.com.py.ipe'ima'anItcucUskulesedu' > > u.i'o.io.itrOcijmInalamIkal.ma'a.imikAkneku > 'iminadjUnolovecUskufilamIkal. > > > > is there one among us here social with Michael Wallace the creator > > of http://coirodo.com. I think we should express out appreciation > > and respect, and try to add him to our ranks. I can, but I don't > > know of an expressive medium to communicate to Michael with. > > Your writing style would be marginally less obnoxious if you were > better at Lojban; your Lojban means nothing like what your English > means. In particular: > > "da pe ma'a" is not "one among us" it's "something associated with > one of us", like "the shirt belonging to one of us" "lamIkal.wAlas." is illegal in two ways: it has w in it, and "la" is > not allowed in cmene[1] > > "nitcu cusku" does *not* mean "need to express", let alone "should > express" > > "le se du'u" requires a bridi inside, which you did not provide. > > "troci jmina" does *not* mean "try to add" in exactly the same way > that "nitcu cusku" does *not* mean "need to express"; you might want > to take a look at "co" > > "jmina" is agentive, and you didn't give one, which looks very odd. > Joining it to the "pe'i ma'a" sentence with gi'e, which is how the > English is written, would help. > > "mi kanke ku'i mi na djuno" is simply wrong; a gi'e would help there > too. > > -Robin > > [1]: There is a proposed alternative rule, but you didn't use it. > > -- > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ > Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" > Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/ > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > > .ua.ui.a'u.i'oki'e.rObin.mu'idosIdju .ixusedrAni lu xuloprEnupema'acujIkcala.mIkal.UAlas.poifIntila'o.py. http://coirodo.com .py .ipe'ima'anItcucocUskulesedu'ucInmoleka .i'o.io.itrOcicojmInala.mIkal.ma 'a .imikAknegi'enadjUnolovecUskufila.mIkal. li'u .iminadjUnoledu'ufAnvazoi.gy.should.gy.la.lOjban. -- ta'o(by the way) We With You Network at: http://lokiworld.org .i(and) more on Lojban: http://lojban.org mu'oimi'e lOkadin (Over, my name is lOkadin) ------=_Part_15440_18096943.1162977399280 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

On 11/7/06, Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
n Tue, Nov 07, 2006 at 05:48:29PM -0500, Andrii (lOkadin) Zvorygin wrote:
> .ixudapema'acujIkcalamIkal.wAlas.poifIntila'o.py.
> http://coirodo.com.py.ipe'ima'anItcucUskulesedu '
> u.i'o.io.itrOcijmInalamIkal.ma'a.imikAkneku'iminadjUnolovecUskufilamIkal.
>
> is there one among us here social with Michael Wallace the creator
> of http://coirodo.com. I think we should express out appreciation
> and respect, and try to add him to our ranks. I can, but I don't
> know of an expressive medium to communicate to Michael with.

Your writing style would be marginally less obnoxious if you were
better at Lojban; your Lojban means nothing like what your English
means.  In particular:

"da pe ma'a" is not "one among us" it's "something associated with
one of us", like "the shirt belonging to one of us"


"lamIkal.wAlas." is illegal in two ways: it has w in it, and "la" is
not allowed in cmene[1]

"nitcu cusku" does *not* mean "need to express", let alone "should
express"

"le se du'u" requires a bridi inside, which you did not provide.

"troci jmina" does *not* mean "try to add" in exactly the same way
that "nitcu cusku" does *not* mean "need to express"; you might want
to take a look at "co"

"jmina" is agentive, and you didn't give one, which looks very odd.
Joining it to the "pe'i ma'a" sentence with gi'e, which is how the
English is written, would help.

"mi kanke ku'i mi na djuno" is simply wrong; a gi'e would help there
too.

-Robin

[1]: There is a proposed alternative rule, but you didn't use it.

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