From lojban-out@lojban.org Sun Dec 31 11:13:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 48529 invoked from network); 31 Dec 2006 19:03:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.35) by m32.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 Dec 2006 19:03:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.9) by mta9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Dec 2006 19:03:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 3331 invoked from network); 31 Dec 2006 19:01:48 -0000 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 31 Dec 2006 19:01:47 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H15wC-0003JD-0B for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 31 Dec 2006 11:01:42 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H15uy-0003EW-Ke; Sun, 31 Dec 2006 11:00:46 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 31 Dec 2006 10:58:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H15sy-0003DG-T5 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 31 Dec 2006 10:58:21 -0800 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.168]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H15st-0003Cp-KJ for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 31 Dec 2006 10:58:20 -0800 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m3so4489540uge for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2006 10:58:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.201.10 with SMTP id y10mr1662533huf.1167591493886; Sun, 31 Dec 2006 10:58:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.144.4 with HTTP; Sun, 31 Dec 2006 10:58:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 13:58:13 -0500 In-Reply-To: <3ccac5f10612310356p6424a233h6e8fe1af02ca85d5@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3ccac5f10612310356p6424a233h6e8fe1af02ca85d5@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 X-Spam-Score-Int: -24 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 13439 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.5 X-Spam-Score-Int: -24 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "chain.digitalkingdom.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Cyril, That depends on what one means by "religion." In the loosest sense, the word could just mean a moral community. Just in the last ten years new institutions -- which might be called "unchurches" -- have been founded that not only affirm the primacy of reason over faith, but go farther and attempt to meet the real needs formerly served by faith-based moral communities. [...] Content analysis details: (-2.5 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 UNPARSEABLE_RELAY Informational: message has unparseable relay lines -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 0.1 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.9 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "Matt Arnold" From: "Matt Arnold" Reply-To: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: Mass Lojban Conversion X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=aPxWvplT6HVd1mMM4lm5NplrskjqRv-3ky52Veehyhpsuy04wA X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 27878 Cyril, That depends on what one means by "religion." In the loosest sense, the word could just mean a moral community. Just in the last ten years new institutions -- which might be called "unchurches" -- have been founded that not only affirm the primacy of reason over faith, but go farther and attempt to meet the real needs formerly served by faith-based moral communities. I go into more detail on this page: http://www.nemorathwald.com/iConoclasm.htm -Eppcott P.S. I love your word "contradictionary". I just invented a meaning for it. I propose that it mean "a dictionary which lists different people's ideas of what words mean." On 12/31/06, Cyril Slobin wrote: > coi iokadin > > > So the followers of this religion learn Lojban so they could think logically > > Don't you thing that religion featuring rational thinking is somewhat > contradictionary idea? > > ... ro se nupre cu se xalbo ca le co'a vensa ... > > -- > Cyril Slobin > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.