From lojban-out@lojban.org Fri Dec 15 13:09:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 32905 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2006 21:06:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m24.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Dec 2006 21:06:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.66.169) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Dec 2006 21:06:56 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GvKFs-00005a-OC for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 13:06:08 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GvKFB-0008Vt-7w; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 13:05:33 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 15 Dec 2006 13:05:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GvKEj-0008Vf-3o for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 13:04:57 -0800 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.181]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GvKEd-0008VY-6a for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 13:04:56 -0800 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id a29so502181pyi for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 13:04:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.96.7 with SMTP id y7mr2332730pyl.1166216690290; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 13:04:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from thebee ( [66.227.87.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id f55sm4484311pyh.2006.12.15.13.04.48; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 13:04:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:04:48 -0700 Message-ID: <000d01c7208c$a8936250$7501a8c0@hq.squarei.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AccgfeK3ZCvYQwH0TxalKxarUPDWbwABvX8g X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-archive-position: 13368 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matthew.dunlap@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.66.169 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "M@" From: "M@" Reply-To: matthew.dunlap@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: 2007 Lojban Festival X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=A14wlNkipGTRP7JWQKZUto2xA1oHEeVDVdbiAVyncy670GEJvA X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 27806 This might be feasible for me iff I could split a room with a few other people. $90/night+airfare+$45 is definitely out of my budget for the time being (how much should I plan on for food?). However, the timing couldn't be better, I should have a nice juicy tax return right around then... should. In short, I don't want to commit before I know I can afford it, but I'd say there's around an 80% chance I can make it. --teryret (representing Fort Collins Colorado) -----Original Message----- From: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org [mailto:lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org] On Behalf Of Matt Arnold Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 12:09 PM To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] 2007 Lojban Festival The time has already come to give thought to our next jbonunsla. In case you haven't read the report about the last one, it's here: http://community.livejournal.com/lojban/18071.html Clearly we are ready-- although not certain-- to move on from Philcon. I can offer us space at Penguicon. However, before committing to be the event organizer this year, I need to get the sense of the community. There are pros and cons to moving to Michigan. Advantages: - As head of programming for Penguicon, I would treat jbonunsla to prominent and ample function space, equipment, and signage. Electricity and free wireless bandwidth will flow like a river of milk and honey. I would know all the local restaurants and make the necessary purchases in the local area beforehand. - Michigan is more centrally located to the continental US than Philadelphia. - Penguicon is the ultimate geek convention, which is tailored not only to science fiction fans, but also to computer programmers, both of whom tend to be attracted to Lojban. - Penguicon has not already been exposed to a true jbonunsla, as Philcon has. The closest Penguicon has come has been well-attended classes about Lojban. - The suburbs of the greater metropolitan Detroit area is the only place in the world with a large Lojban enthusiast group that meets in person regularly. All seven of its members, except for Alex Martini, met at Penguicon. - We hope to show the silent black and white film "Call of Cthulhu" with its subtitles translated into Lojban. - Laurence Schoen, "The Klingon Guy", is interested in attending Penguicon. Disadvantages: - I would not be personally available to attend jbonunsla all weekend at Penguicon because I'm running the convention. - Penguicon is not the traditional convention of the LeChevaliers, John Cowan, et. al., Philcon is. We do not yet know how many Lojbanists would be willing to travel to Michigan. If no one from out of state shows up, I would have dedicated precious Penguicon resources for nothing that I did not already have before. - There are only four months between now and Penguicon. Here is a floor plan of the function space: http://www.penguicon.org/Members/Matt_Arnold/penguicon-blog/archive/2006/09/ 01/function-space-map-of-new-hotel/ The board room has a nice table and we could hang the original Logfest mural and drape all the walls in additional paper to expand the mural. It could be designated it for a place to _speak_ Lojban to each other. I would like to put an info kiosk outside it (we have several) and come up with a Flash animation on DVD that will be on a loop, introducing passerby to Lojban. The room labeled "shop" is a hotel gift shop, but I'll talk to the hotel about giving it to us as a place to divert curious English-speaking questioners. I've cleared this option with my conchair. Here's my current schedule of events: http://www.penguicon.org/programming As you see, the Board Room has the Writing Workshop and "Coffee With Guests of Honor", but they are often so early that most of us are sleeping. During the Saturday afternoon writing workshop and the 11:30 coffee, we can move our events into a larger room to do things that might attract an audience. However, we still have to decide whether to do this. Everyone please let me know the likelihood that you would attend, and ask me for any info you need. That's what's going to make or break the decision to go forward. I would be interested in trying to organize a van to borrow or rent in Philadelphia to carpool Bob, Nora, John Cowan, and hopefully the Klingon Guy Laurence Schoen. I would also like to seek LLG funds to defray the expenses of Lojbanists. -Eppcott To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. 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