From lojban-out@lojban.org Sun Dec 03 07:45:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 18452 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2006 15:39:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m31.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Dec 2006 15:39:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.66.169) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Dec 2006 15:39:54 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GqtFI-0000mL-4n for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 03 Dec 2006 07:27:12 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GqtDK-0000gM-Ci; Sun, 03 Dec 2006 07:25:15 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 03 Dec 2006 07:25:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GqtCm-0000fW-El for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 03 Dec 2006 07:24:36 -0800 Received: from ws6-3.us4.outblaze.com ([205.158.62.199]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GqtCf-0000fG-N6 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 03 Dec 2006 07:24:36 -0800 Received: by ws6-3.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D7D8C2F911; Sun, 3 Dec 2006 15:24:27 +0000 (GMT) Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 07:24:27 -0800 Received: from [68.238.190.37] by ws6-3.us4.outblaze.com with http for arika@okrent.com; Sun, 03 Dec 2006 07:24:27 -0800 X-Originating-Server: ws6-3.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20061203152427.D7D8C2F911@ws6-3.us4.outblaze.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 13301 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: arika@okrent.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.66.169 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "Arika Okrent" From: "Arika Okrent" Reply-To: arika@okrent.com Subject: [lojban] Re: S-W/ was Re: (no subject)/Borges X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=jEtnvPsj-Y6N2Xf7gVaWI2Cp5ezO7jO9kZiQjjW67-N60oGs0A X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 27739 The effects on > world-view and > habitual behavior is attributed to obligatory grammatical categories of a > language. So, > vocabulary plays no role in the matter at all Except that so much of what would normally be represented by case systems, or classifier systems or other such grammatical apparatus is stuffed into the lexically specified (and therefore obligitory) argument structure of the gismu -- this is the aspect of the loglangs that is the strangest to me. And also the place where the "classification of the universe" problem comes in. -a ************ Arika Okrent arika@okrent.com http://www.wickedoasis.org/arika To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.