From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Dec 27 23:39:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 91306 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2006 07:39:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m27.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Dec 2006 07:39:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.3) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Dec 2006 07:39:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 25233 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2006 07:39:08 -0000 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 28 Dec 2006 07:39:08 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gzpr0-0005JA-R6 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 27 Dec 2006 23:39:07 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GzpoX-0005Cv-OE; Wed, 27 Dec 2006 23:36:54 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 27 Dec 2006 23:34:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GzpmQ-0005Ao-Ha for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 27 Dec 2006 23:34:22 -0800 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.175]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GzpmK-0005AE-FQ for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 27 Dec 2006 23:34:22 -0800 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m3so3846902uge for ; Wed, 27 Dec 2006 23:34:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.171.20 with SMTP id t20mr288764hue.1167291254798; Wed, 27 Dec 2006 23:34:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.90.12 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Dec 2006 23:34:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5b0248170612272334p738fd8c1nea13767dda012c26@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 16:34:14 +0900 In-Reply-To: <001701c72a1e$15736ce0$6b01a8c0@CMENE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <001701c72a1e$15736ce0$6b01a8c0@CMENE> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Score-Int: -25 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 13413 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: sanxiyn@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Score-Int: -25 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "chain.digitalkingdom.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: 2006/12/28, Ryan Keppel : > li'a tu'a lo lojban se ciska cu pluka mi _lojban_ is a name, so the correct article is _la_. _tu'a_ usage here is ungrammatical. Either _tu'a la lojban._(the thing which has something to do with Lojban), or _lo se ciska bau la lojban._(the thing which is written in the language Lojban). [...] Content analysis details: (-2.6 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 UNPARSEABLE_RELAY Informational: message has unparseable relay lines -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] -0.0 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.3 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "Sanghyeon Seo" From: "Sanghyeon Seo" Reply-To: sanxiyn@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: ko finti X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=FUpoD7uwTMG40r3QPZeC2q-ZMX8KtFmJR4z1tNRbieMBVZO5jw X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 27852 2006/12/28, Ryan Keppel : > li'a tu'a lo lojban se ciska cu pluka mi _lojban_ is a name, so the correct article is _la_. _tu'a_ usage here is ungrammatical. Either _tu'a la lojban._(the thing which has something to do with Lojban), or _lo se ciska bau la lojban._(the thing which is written in the language Lojban). > i ku'i lo se finti lo xe fanva cu zmadu le ka se gleki .ie > .i ji'a ko kurji ko I don't understand. Did you intend _ja'e_? Also, if you intended something like "so I decided to help myself", _ko_ is not appropriate, _mi_ is. > lo pemci po'e mi Unless this poem is inalienable posession of you, like your hand, you want _pe_ here. > lu loi cinmo li'u co'e I don't understand this at all. > i ko gletu ko pi'o le do xance Although the literal translation would be very poetic indeed, I think you intended _sepi'o_ here. > i ko jinga gi'e catra > i ko sevzi ko > i ko finti lo xatra > be ko .ue de'u rimni .iku'i la'ede'u jai vlile "Fuck yourself with your own hands. Win, and kill. Be yourself. Write a page of letter to yourself." -- Seo Sanghyeon To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.