From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Jan 07 12:09:16 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 07 Jan 2007 12:09:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H3eK7-0002aQ-Bj for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 07 Jan 2007 12:08:55 -0800 Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.238]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H3eK1-0002aG-Cl for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 07 Jan 2007 12:08:55 -0800 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i30so10772556wxd for ; Sun, 07 Jan 2007 12:08:48 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=Q3DjbhKTS5QUuDWV8M9frkJgnxv35/8wF7iJi8DKKo0IXL0Am/9Y2YUcWybGT+MVw0PcTARjJYUMcgv5J5bjoMQQr8MdE1gBjU0yuLRUVqXo4qCJVKhi1oY5+xJ6T+qboZN0CMuJda8lk+umvADvAhqjZC7SsjVxFkV/fcuzPOQ= Received: by 10.90.118.8 with SMTP id q8mr1654907agc.1168200528228; Sun, 07 Jan 2007 12:08:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.31.6 with HTTP; Sun, 7 Jan 2007 12:08:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3ccac5f10701071208j3249b18ao83185aad8a3fdd5e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 23:08:48 +0300 From: "Cyril Slobin" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Duty, promice etc... In-Reply-To: <925d17560701070904g78dba657j8a8510465d3c1cc7@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <925d17560701060757o1c0b3914w2f28416a2858cb29@mail.gmail.com> <611088.72555.qm@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <925d17560701070458t7243c3a0n2368d08b771cd615@mail.gmail.com> <3ccac5f10701070552o6995a1fetce44cc0fd724ee82@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560701070904g78dba657j8a8510465d3c1cc7@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: ce861bae011b9fd9 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Score-Int: -25 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 13524 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: slobin@ice.ru Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list coi xorxes > > Because it is (or should be) a very common pattern, I suggest > > a series of lujvo in form {nupybilga} whith following place stucture: > > x1 = nupre1 = bilga1 "who is promised and therefore obliged", x2 = > > nupre2 = bilga2 "what is promiced and therefore obliged"; bilga3 = > > {le nu nupre} and omitteded from lujvo place structure, x3 = nupre3 > > "beneficiary/victim of a promise". > > How would that differ from plain {nupre}? I opine {nupre} is "to make/give a promise". I opine this is different concept from "being bound by a promice". Second is implied/motivated/justified by first, but is not the same. ... Laziness has an important impact on efficiency ... -- Cyril Slobin To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.