From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Jan 14 21:52:28 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 14 Jan 2007 21:52:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H6KlG-000818-Og for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 21:52:03 -0800 Received: from smtp1.pcisys.net ([216.229.32.113]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H6KlC-00080u-2X for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 21:52:02 -0800 Received: from [192.168.1.106] (cwap-206-53-21-117.cos.pcisys.net [206.53.21.117]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp1.pcisys.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l0F5pr4b028901 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 22:51:55 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <45AB16CA.2040704@pcisys.net> Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 22:53:14 -0700 From: Stephen David Simmons User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: marimba and xylophone and other instruments References: <200701141544.43490.phma@phma.optus.nu> In-Reply-To: <200701141544.43490.phma@phma.optus.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.5 X-Spam-Score-Int: -24 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 13538 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ssimmons@pcisys.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Pierre Abbat wrote: > What exactly is a pipno? Does any instrument with something arranged like a > piano keyboard qualify, or do they have to be keys? > With a piano, the "keys" don't vibrate, they are part of the striking system; with a xylophone, the keys vibrate, similar to a drum. Since there is a gismu for drum, I'd assume that would be the better choice. > {damri} according to the gimste includes cymbals and gongs as well as drums. > Cymbals and gongs are idiophones, and cymbals are held at the center; drums > are membranophones held at the outside. Hornbostel-Sachs classifies bells, > cymbals, and gongs all as 111 and most drums as 21. > I'm not sure what the classifications mean, but to me, a xylophone is a like a set of miniature drums (generally held at two points on the "outside"), generally arranged in a line (though the line isn't always straight). Perhaps {damryli'ica'a}. Caveat: the most I know about instruments is repairing a piano key mechanisms with household scraps. Not as effective as I would like. --Stephen Simmons To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.