From lojban-out@lojban.org Fri Jan 05 12:33:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 55319 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2007 20:33:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jan 2007 20:33:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.8) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jan 2007 20:33:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 24136 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2007 20:32:51 -0000 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 5 Jan 2007 20:32:50 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H2vk9-0005br-0T for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 05 Jan 2007 12:32:49 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H2vjh-0005Zs-AW; Fri, 05 Jan 2007 12:32:28 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 05 Jan 2007 12:31:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H2vim-0005Yv-St for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 05 Jan 2007 12:31:25 -0800 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.174]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H2vih-0005YM-RI for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 05 Jan 2007 12:31:24 -0800 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m3so5614389uge for ; Fri, 05 Jan 2007 12:31:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.114.3 with SMTP id m3mr2245241buc.1168029077722; Fri, 05 Jan 2007 12:31:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.115.20 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 12:31:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560701051231y30cacef5yd2e3faa430ca3833@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 17:31:17 -0300 In-Reply-To: <3ccac5f10701051225x3cbc6444se866ee2b39fa7c9e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <925d17560701050934yc0c5158w7d06fb2f916dc9a@mail.gmail.com> <20070105191524.79889.qmail@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <925d17560701051158t3d29fec1n8afb2e76c7f41924@mail.gmail.com> <3ccac5f10701051206yeb150cdv8e2274c26fc8eb2a@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560701051212p7e95aa4bia6a5f968d1ea4426@mail.gmail.com> <3ccac5f10701051225x3cbc6444se866ee2b39fa7c9e@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Score-Int: -25 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 13510 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Score-Int: -25 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "chain.digitalkingdom.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On 1/5/07, Cyril Slobin wrote: > > > A network of obligations might be {lo gunma be lo se bilga}. > > No. {le gumna be lo nu bilga}, not {... lo se bilga}. But it is {lo se bilga} that are the obligations, not {lo nu se bilga}. [...] Content analysis details: (-2.6 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 UNPARSEABLE_RELAY Informational: message has unparseable relay lines -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 0.0 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.8 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" Reply-To: jjllambias@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: Duty, promice etc... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=Bsd-WXg051pbZWa8t7QzKufWqKG8c_1OcaVs8JnjSLJ1M5ORjw X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 27947 On 1/5/07, Cyril Slobin wrote: > > > A network of obligations might be {lo gunma be lo se bilga}. > > No. {le gumna be lo nu bilga}, not {... lo se bilga}. But it is {lo se bilga} that are the obligations, not {lo nu se bilga}. For example, giving you a bicycle might be my obligation, my being obliged to give you a bicycle is not my obligation. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.