From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Jan 02 16:40:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 3541 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2007 00:23:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Jan 2007 00:23:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.4) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Jan 2007 00:23:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 19081 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2007 00:21:55 -0000 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 3 Jan 2007 00:21:55 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H1ttA-0001zo-4N for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 02 Jan 2007 16:21:52 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H1tsk-0001y7-Pc; Tue, 02 Jan 2007 16:21:31 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 02 Jan 2007 16:20:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H1trd-0001xP-5H for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 02 Jan 2007 16:20:19 -0800 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.173]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H1trX-0001wu-8Y for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 02 Jan 2007 16:20:16 -0800 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m3so4845470uge for ; Tue, 02 Jan 2007 16:20:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.204.20 with SMTP id b20mr5531391hug.1167783191743; Tue, 02 Jan 2007 16:13:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.144.4 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 16:13:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 19:13:11 -0500 In-Reply-To: <000b01c72eca$97602300$6601a8c0@hq.squarei.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <000b01c72eca$97602300$6601a8c0@hq.squarei.net> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 X-Spam-Score-Int: -24 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 13459 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.5 X-Spam-Score-Int: -24 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "chain.digitalkingdom.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On 1/2/07, M@ wrote: > Content analysis details: (-2.5 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 UNPARSEABLE_RELAY Informational: message has unparseable relay lines -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 0.1 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.4 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "Matt Arnold" From: "Matt Arnold" Reply-To: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: Mass Lojban Conversion X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=HyvyGErJsXUncxrP0RYkhh4gTO5oSb7rmhC-gcQQVaFwb9tA3w X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 27899 On 1/2/07, M@ wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Arnold > "I don't know what I'm talking about" is a very different phrase from "I > don't know what I'm thinking about". It's important to differentiate > between communication and thinking. Then the phrase should be changed to the latter. When terms are very poorly defined, confusion results from not knowing what one is reasoning about. It's far more than a communication problem when it impairs the ability to reason not only with others but with one's self. -Matt To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.