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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: In a message dated 1/2/2007 4:21:49 AM Central Standard Time, "M@" < matthew.dunlap@gmail.com> via ecartis@digitalkingdom.org writes: > Actually now that I use those words it occurs to me that there's a science > fiction book in that idea somewhere: just what would such a society be like? > If you were even a little bit clever about it the race that was usually > misunderstood would somehow parallel the challenges of today's machine > interfaces. They could then be encountered by a race from jboplini and > depending on the message you want to send the rest of the book is based on > the details, and any more thought on the matter will launch me onto a > tangent which might result in writing a book. One last thought on the book > (not really, but it's the last one I'll write), I can't imagine any > situation in which jbopre as the protagonists could achieve the entirely > patronizing outcome I always associate with the desires of underdog > supporters. now if the jbopre were the enemy. you'd have to tread carefully, > but it could be done. > [...] Content analysis details: (-1.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 1.0 NO_REAL_NAME From: does not include a real name 0.0 UNPARSEABLE_RELAY Informational: message has unparseable relay lines -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 0.4 HTML_30_40 BODY: Message is 30% to 40% HTML 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.1 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.7 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com From: lojban-out@lojban.org Reply-To: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Subject: [lojban] What a story! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=EeAXVCNgYzcQLOnkQuhkP7lDpMmH93hmup3buqx5nz_UZwRPQA X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 27892 --part1_cd3.742d755.32cbbf59_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/2/2007 4:21:49 AM Central Standard Time, "M@" < matthew.dunlap@gmail.com> via ecartis@digitalkingdom.org writes: > Actually now that I use those words it occurs to me that there's a science > fiction book in that idea somewhere: just what would such a society be like? > If you were even a little bit clever about it the race that was usually > misunderstood would somehow parallel the challenges of today's machine > interfaces. They could then be encountered by a race from jboplini and > depending on the message you want to send the rest of the book is based on > the details, and any more thought on the matter will launch me onto a > tangent which might result in writing a book. One last thought on the book > (not really, but it's the last one I'll write), I can't imagine any > situation in which jbopre as the protagonists could achieve the entirely > patronizing outcome I always associate with the desires of underdog > supporters. now if the jbopre were the enemy. you'd have to tread carefully, > but it could be done. > This ignores the fact that societies can exist without any language at all, and yet still be understood. Examples forthcoming in the not-so-near future... stevo --part1_cd3.742d755.32cbbf59_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 1/2/2007 4:21:49 AM Cen= tral Standard Time, "M@" <matthew.dunlap@gmail.co= m> via=20
ecartis@digitalkingdom.org writes:


Actually now that I use t= hose words it occurs to me that there's a science
fiction book in that idea somewhere: just what would such a society be = like?
If you were even a little bit clever about it the race that was usually
misunderstood would somehow parallel the challenges of today's machine
interfaces.  They could then be encountered by a race from jboplin= i and
depending on the message you want to send the rest of the book is based= on
the details, and any more thought on the matter will launch me onto a
tangent which might result in writing a book.  One last thought on= the book
(not really, but it's the last one I'll write), I can't imagine any
situation in which jbopre as the protagonists could achieve the entirel= y
patronizing outcome I always associate with the desires of underdog
supporters. now if the jbopre were the enemy. you'd have to tread caref= ully,
but it could be done.


This ignores the fact that societies can exist without any language at = all, and yet still be understood.  Examples forthcoming in the not-so-= near future...

stevo --part1_cd3.742d755.32cbbf59_boundary--