From lojban-out@lojban.org Sun Jan 14 12:53:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 46421 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2007 20:52:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.36) by m41.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Jan 2007 20:52:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.7) by mta10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Jan 2007 20:52:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 372 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2007 20:49:45 -0000 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 14 Jan 2007 20:49:45 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H6CIO-0006qL-Lm for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 12:49:41 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H6CHs-0006ov-8p; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 12:49:12 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 14 Jan 2007 12:47:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H6CGB-0006oA-LL for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 12:47:23 -0800 Received: from phma.optus.nu ([166.82.175.165] helo=ixazon.dynip.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H6CG2-0006nR-Ta for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 12:47:23 -0800 Received: from chausie (unknown [192.168.7.4]) by ixazon.dynip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0BCFCE88B for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 15:46:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 15:44:42 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200701141544.43490.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: -1.4 X-Spam-Score-Int: -13 X-Spam-Bar: - X-archive-position: 13537 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.2 X-Spam-Score-Int: -21 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "chain.digitalkingdom.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Yesterday two men played a marimba at church, and I thought of what to call it in Lojban. {amrimba} is a valid fu'ivla, but for xylophones in general, I'm not so sure. Does {mudjanbypi'o} make sense? [...] Content analysis details: (-2.2 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.1 FORGED_RCVD_HELO Received: contains a forged HELO 0.0 UNPARSEABLE_RELAY Informational: message has unparseable relay lines -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 0.2 DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE RBL: Envelope sender in abuse.rfc-ignorant.org 0.0 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.7 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Pierre Abbat From: Pierre Abbat Reply-To: phma@phma.optus.nu Subject: [lojban] marimba and xylophone and other instruments X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=P5vPSS7j62Kwk6iAYXGkR_M15n9CjhvGGU4_RHSg5M0iayeqkg X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 27976 Yesterday two men played a marimba at church, and I thought of what to call it in Lojban. {amrimba} is a valid fu'ivla, but for xylophones in general, I'm not so sure. Does {mudjanbypi'o} make sense? What exactly is a pipno? Does any instrument with something arranged like a piano keyboard qualify, or do they have to be keys? {damri} according to the gimste includes cymbals and gongs as well as drums. Cymbals and gongs are idiophones, and cymbals are held at the center; drums are membranophones held at the outside. Hornbostel-Sachs classifies bells, cymbals, and gongs all as 111 and most drums as 21. phma To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.