Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 02 Jan 2007 20:34:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H1xp8-0007qV-J6 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 02 Jan 2007 20:33:59 -0800 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.248]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H1xp3-0007pv-2I for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 02 Jan 2007 20:33:58 -0800 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b8so1517830ana for ; Tue, 02 Jan 2007 20:33:51 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to:thread-index:x-mimeole; b=khTFnq/czJpPtYNOUQy02Xcmkyl36zaO2+NNqpkWaVmWGqL8SXeXmCKzCwW4WrIR/gTBTWr5aSSrKhHP0zUjZiOI54JsERjGXtgQUdKKJfuCAskhxsBVD2jTYX+ugNy0TEM0ZK9pYpdkSGcnt5mOkeHHdWBb4DhLUEu/68ZBj1c= Received: by 10.100.93.5 with SMTP id q5mr2348921anb.1167798831250; Tue, 02 Jan 2007 20:33:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from thebee ( [71.196.217.119]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id c40sm25180694anc.2007.01.02.20.33.49; Tue, 02 Jan 2007 20:33:50 -0800 (PST) From: "M@" To: Subject: [lojban] Re: Military language Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 21:33:46 -0700 Message-ID: <001c01c72ef0$5c6462e0$6601a8c0@hq.squarei.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001D_01C72EB5.B0058AE0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Accu7N5LCJRXut70TduyyNDKDc3KxAAAjx2Q X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Score: -2.1 X-Spam-Score-Int: -20 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 13465 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matthew.dunlap@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Content-Length: 8213 Lines: 270 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C72EB5.B0058AE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Clearly I don't, because as far as I can tell lojban doesn't have a mandatory mechanism for total elimination of misunderstandings, a single being working alone hardly needs language, and everything the military can do is subject to downright totalitarian amounts of bureaucracy (which, itself, is a mechanism to help prevent misunderstandings). But if not that, what did you think I meant by "everything they can"? --M@ _____ From: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org [mailto:lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org] On Behalf Of Fen Fen Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 9:07 PM To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Military language li'o Of course, there can still be misunderstandings, if there is interference and the word 'na' doesn't come through out of "ko na daspo le ckule" bad things would probably happen. And that does cost lives, but the military is doing everything they can to establish protocols to prevent that kind of thing from happening. --M@ "Everything they can" is interesting. li'a You can't teach Lojban to a million or so people--they have a hard enough time getting Arabic speakers. "Everything they can" means you don't get the idea behind Lojban. A single, transhumanistic, sentient being, could take on the Earth and win. I don't see that they are doing "everything they can". ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C72EB5.B0058AE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Clearly I don’t, because as = far as I can tell lojban doesn’t have a mandatory mechanism for total = elimination of misunderstandings, a single being working alone hardly needs = language, and everything the military can do is subject to downright totalitarian amounts of = bureaucracy (which, itself, is a mechanism to help prevent misunderstandings). = But if not that, what did you think I meant by “everything they = can”?

--M@

From: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org [mailto:lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org] = On Behalf Of Fen Fen
Sent: Tuesday, January = 02, 2007 9:07 PM
To: lojban-list@lojban.org
Subject: [lojban] Re: = Military language

li'o

Of course, there can still be misunderstandings, if there is interference and the word = ‘na’ doesn’t come through out of “ko na daspo le ckule” bad = things would probably happen. And that does cost lives, but the military = is doing everything they can to establish protocols to prevent that kind of = thing from happening.

--M@

"Everything they can" is interesting. li'a You can't teach Lojban to a million or so people--they = have a hard enough time getting Arabic speakers.

"Everything they can" = means you don't get the idea behind Lojban. A single, transhumanistic, sentient = being, could take on the Earth and win. I don't see that they are doing "everything they can".

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